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Maul vs. ROTS General Grievous (sabers only!) You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
Maul pwns	1	7.69%
Maul wins fairly easily	0	0%
Maul wins, a little difficulty	0	0%
Maul wins with a lot of difficulty	4	30.77%
Grievous pwns	1	7.69%
Grievous wins fairly easily	1	7.69%
Grievous wins, a little difficulty	2	15.38%
Grievous wins with a lot of difficulty	4	30.77%
Total:	13 votes	100%

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Darth Maul vs. General Grievous
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Originally posted by Advent
Done before, and Grievous wins.

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Originally posted by Advent
I pick General Grievous. Now, let me first start out by addressing the Maul versus Obi-Wan fight in TPM.

After Qui-Gon is killed, and the doors open we know that Darth Maul is described as being "The Sith Lord was borne backward by the Jedi Knight's initial rush, caught off guard by the other's wild assault", and indeed his assault was wild. Now if you compare the way General Grievous fights, I'd submit that's as wild as anything else. "Obi-Wan, while not so experienced as Qui-Gon, was quicker. Anticipating each blow, he was able to elude his antagonist's efforts to bring him down" Also, we know for a fact that Grievous is far quicker than TPM Obi-Wan and far more skilled as well, while Kenobi had the Force to help with his reflexes, Grievous has cybernetics that vastly enhance his reflexes, and the like. So, it's likely to assume that Maul doesn't have very many advantages here aside from the Force, which I'll address later.

Another excerpt from the TPM novel states this: "The battle wore on, and for a time it was fought evenly." - so, it seems that TPM Kenobi was even able to match Maul for awhile, and obviously Grievous' attacks are more wild, fast, and unexpected than Obi-Wan's were in TPM, so it's even more reason to assume Grievous would win. After that it goes on to say that because Darth Maul is stronger (more than likely meant physically stronger) than Kenobi, he was able to "wear the young Jedi down eventually". Grievous doesn't have to worry about that too much, seeing as he's practically a full cyborg, and Grievous is also physically stronger than Maul.

Now, we'll go on to Jedi kills.

Grievous has had far more lightsaber to lightsaber confrontation. We know he's killed such people as Master T'Chooka, Adi Gallia, and numerous other Jedi. At one point, Grievous is able to hold of five (or was it seven?) Jedi at once with only two lightsabers. Including Aayla Secura, and Council member, Ki-Adi Mundi. As I said, he was able to easily slice through Master T'Chooka who is described by the omniscient narrator as having "great skill" and being "strong in the Force":

Council Member and Jedi Master, Adi Gallia, as I said, was first pwned in a saberlock by General Grievous' extra hands, which I'd submit would happen to Maul as well probably:

That's two out of the numerous other Jedi he's killed. The Jedi Council even gives acknowledgment that General Grievous himself, not the army, is a threat to the Republic and the Jedi Order. They note his skill as exactly "the near indestructibility of a droid wedded with the skill of a deadly warrior":

I fail to see how Maul's Ter�s K�si skills will help him. By the time he throws a kick, his leg and arm will be severed from his body. In Labryinth of Evil, he's described as "Once merely a barbaric living being; now a cyborg monstrosity, devoted to death and destruction. Already the butcher of entire populations; the devastator of countless worlds...". Yes, you can say "go read Shadow Hunter!" or "Read the Darth Maul comics!", but I'll tell you I've read them, I've argued for Maul countless times - he will not win. Grievous did compete with, and defeat Asajj and Durge at the same time

From Labryinth of Evil: "The Geonosians had arranged for Grievous to be nothing but anger and rage. And as to the general's combat skills, few, if any, Jedi would be capable of defeating him. There had been moments during the extensive combat sessions when even Dooku had been hard-pressed to outduel the cyborg."

As it seems, that is completely true. There's few Jedi that are capable of defeating him, as we've seen many fall to his blade. Losing to ROTS Obi-Wan is hardly a negative for Grievous, btw. And it even says Count Dooku had had trouble at times to outduel Grievous. We also know that he fights smart if he's being outdueled, definitely smarter than Darth Maul ever was.

"These Jedi were more proficient than the ones he had fought in the bunker, but not skilled enough to challenge him."

This is just proving how Jedi really are no match for Grievous, he takes them out within a split second of raising his lightsaber. He's obviously a very capable duelist, to think Maul is more skilled with a lightsaber is ridiculous. Grievous annihilates Jedi as if they were nothing. He's also capable of dodging fully automatic fire, and ripping an assault vehicle down with apparent ease with his lightsaber.

As well, I doubt Maul will even come close to penetrating Grievous' body with punches and kicks, given Obi-Wan couldn't even do shit do it, and the fact it withstood a friggin' explosion.

As well, from Dark Rendezvous - "Possibly Asajj Ventress, his protegee, would be there, clamoring to be made his apprentice. He had a meeting scheduled with the formidable General Grievous, who was even more powerful than Ventress, but a great deal less interesting as a dinner-table conversationalist."

Grievous is described as being "more powerful than Ventress", who I'd rank equivalent or slightly below Darth Maul. Anyways, to sum up this post: Grievous wins.

In terms of having Force powers enabled for the fight, Darth Maul might be able to win; as he knows Force grip, but that's the only actual damaging technique in Darth Maul's arsenal.

Advent, in your own words: "Clearly you have a hard time comprehending basic words". This is ROTS Grievous in other words, General grievous from Star wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith. Everything single thing about Grievous that you posted was about EU Grievous. So your entire post is moot. Also, Maul wasn't at his full strength when he was able to match Qui-Gon and Kenobi, 2 on 1.

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Last edited by darthsith19 on Apr 10th, 2007 at 10:40 PM