Endless Mike
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Despite the fact that he fought him to a stalemate about 3 or 4 times?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Despite the fact that he fought him to a stalemate about 3 or 4 times?
I'm not saying he isn't uber.
But the best he's done against Superboy was when the whole legion was after him. Reverse Ninja law, and everything... you know.
All I'm saying, is that he isn't = to Superboy.
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Jun 21st, 2007 07:17 PM
Endless Mike
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Not in strength, travel speed, or destructive power, but he can at least match him in reaction speed, his skills can create blows that can harm him somewhat, and redirect his own power against him.
He doesn't have nearly as much raw power though.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Despite the fact that he fought him to a stalemate about 3 or 4 times?
Mon-el's easily caught one of KK's punches before... KK can't beat Superboy or Mon-el, it's the fact that he doesn't get destroyed is a huge feat. Still, Diana is far better than him in everything but skill, and even then she's still pretty skilled. Wonder Woman will win a clear majority.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
I'm not saying he isn't uber.
But the best he's done against Superboy was when the whole legion was after him. Reverse Ninja law, and everything... you know.
All I'm saying, is that he isn't = to Superboy.
And Even if he was, Superboy would get quite a beat down from Wonder Woman... soooooooooo........
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Mon-el's easily caught one of KK's punches before... KK can't beat Superboy or Mon-el, it's the fact that he doesn't get destroyed is a huge feat. Still, Diana is far better than him in everything but skill, and even then she's still pretty skilled. Wonder Woman will win a clear majority.
Current Wonder Woman <<<<<<<<< Pre - Crisis Kryptonians. If she engages in HtH she gets mauled.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
Shit writing. Plain and simple. A martial artist, no matter how good, is not as powerful as Superman.
You can blame that on DC not me. Thats how they want to write so thats how its.
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Endless Mike
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rick/Genis
And Even if he was, Superboy would get quite a beat down from Wonder Woman... soooooooooo........
We're talking about Pre - Crisis Superboy.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Not in strength, travel speed, or destructive power, but he can at least match him in reaction speed, his skills can create blows that can harm him somewhat, and redirect his own power against him.
He doesn't have nearly as much raw power though.
To an extent. Val has flat out admitted he's not as powerful as Superboy, and he's said he can't really beat, nor harm him. The only way he can compete is by using strategy. So yeah, pretty much...
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Caps Conscience
You can blame that on DC not me. Thats how they want to write so thats how its.
I'm not blaming it on anybody because it's not true. Karate Kid is not as powerful as Superman.
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Jun 21st, 2007 07:32 PM
Endless Mike
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
I'm not blaming it on anybody because it's not true. Karate Kid is not as powerful as Superman.
Not in raw strength and force, but his other abilities allow him to fight on an even plane with him.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Not in raw strength and force, but his other abilities allow him to fight on an even plane with him.
I agree... if Superman were to only use strength and speed in a fight. If he uses freeze breath, heat vision, (not the puny two-inch wide heat vision Mon-El tried to use... I'm talking about heat vsion wide enough to cover a planet that Superman's shown before) or T-Vo, it's over.
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Jun 21st, 2007 07:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
I agree... if Superman were to only use strength and speed in a fight. If he uses freeze breath, heat vision, (not the puny two-inch wide heat vision Mon-El tried to use... I'm talking about heat vsion wide enough to cover a planet that Superman's shown before) or T-Vo, it's over.
That would be out of character for Superman to try and do that to another person. especially a hero. You are the one who said we dont' only argue power sets here but character as well right?
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Endless Mike
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That would fry innocent bystanders as well
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That would be out of character for Superman to try and do that to another person. especially a hero. You are the one who said we dont' only argue power sets here but character as well right?
His strength is just as lethal as his heat vision nvrhadaclue.
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Jun 21st, 2007 08:04 PM
Endless Mike
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
His strength is just as lethal as his heat vision nvrhadaclue.
Yet KK can use his own strength against him
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yet KK can use his own strength against him
Not if he gets one good hit in the face. And if Superman is gonna try to punch Karate Kid, there's nothing wrong with saying he'd trying to blast him with heat vision or freeze him.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
We're talking about Pre - Crisis Superboy.
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what happened there, did their "sun" explode or something
Jun 21st, 2007 08:15 PM
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actually i could see KK dodging HV as long as its not like fullout and everything. In the latest JLA he dodged lightning.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Superherovandal
actually i could see KK dodging HV as long as its not like fullout and everything. In the latest JLA he dodged lightning.
All Superman would have to do is make it wide. He wouldn't have to be going for the kill.
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