We look at actual on panel feats and illustrated character power sets and from their proven capabilities, post a hypothetical confrontation where we speculate how we think characters would fare based on said proven capabilities and nothing else, otherwise the argument is baseless.
If a character has not shown themselves capable of something on panel, if they've shown nowhere near a certain level of prowess you cannot state that they are capable of doing so and expect to get away with that in debate.
If Phoenix in other appearances hadnt healed the M'kraan crystal, amputated the future and telekinetically manipulated the atoms of a a reality then i would not and could not credibly come in here and argue that she's certified universe destroyer level regardless of what a few characters on panel merely said about her capacity.
On top of that the Time Bubble story arc where Galactus raged out of control and was eating everything around him never occurred in 616 and it never featured 616 Galactus therefore using said arc as a representation of what 616 Galactus is capable of is illogical. Not only could that Galactus have had a different power level to our Galactus, but on top of that the Galactus in that story arc could only do what he did after his makeup was altered by the Dreaming Celestial. It wasnt a feat achievable as far as we know by that universes Galactus as standard, so once again referencing that event to speak for 616 Galactus is illogical.
I'm not convinced. Greater in terms of its versatility most definitely as the UN's a bit of a one trick pony, however since when does re-directing the path of an energy blast automatically equate to one power being more potent than another?
I'm not saying the Ig's NOT more powerful, i'm just saying i dont personally think that incident is evidence of it.
Oh definitely, its so much more versatile. However i'm not convinced the IG in one burst of power can cause more destruction than the UN can. But due to the limited versatility of the UN, an IG user would always be able to defeat a UN user.
Well yeah, but even if you fire a UN blast at an IG user, the IG can redirect it, that's why I put IG>UN. I'm not sure if the IG can make a bigger "Bang", but it'll definatly win in a fight.
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Re: Cosmic Extant runs the gauntlet
Marvel ... IMO.
1. Depowered Tyrant (never destroyed a Universe, can't destroy a Universe)
2. In-betweener (never destroyed a Universe, can't destroy a Universe)
3. Maelstrom as Anomaly with Eon Consciousness (needed a Black Hole to destroy a Universe)
4. Eternity Aspect, (which is One Universe/Reality)
5. Phoenix Force (Universal destroyer)
6. Eternity (All, which is the Multiverse)
7. Galactus w/UN (Multiversal destroyer)
8. Thanos IG (too many reasons)
8. Jim Jaspers (not even Matrix empowered Merlyn could stop him)
9. Eighth place is a Tie, imo, I just don't know who would take that.
There's also a rumor going around that Maelstrom was stalemating Thanos, but there's no conclusive proof that Thanos had the IG in that battle, in fact, Thanos is not wearing an IG on panel.
Quasar was crossing Timelines when he saw that, Quasar even saw Korvac before he nullified Eternity back in 1982, so, I'm not sure he saw Thanos w/IG, it could have been Thanos' acquisition of another power source.
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Woah i have been gone to long from here, what now Galactus is now Multiversal. 
Jun 24th, 2007 05:37 PM
you got my pm. So, as the resident expert on Extant and the 'Gog, where does he stop, and who does he beat?
Your order of the marvel guys looks accurate.
