The Kotor comics have been pretty decent, but they've shot themselves in the foot by making Alek Malak, introducing the Revanchist leader and Revanchism (a shtty concept).
These ideas seem half assed to me, and if Malak is Alek, Malak becomes a lot less then we thought he was.
Second, it messes up (as kamhal said) the already established "canon" concerning these two characters.
Malak and Revan were friends and peers, not master and apprentice this only happens when they became Sith, and even then I'd imagine it was far from a regular mentor-apprentice relationship.
EDIT: Also, why is Malak callled Alek? The Kotor games pretty much state that neither Revan or Malak changed their names upon becoming Sith. Malak was referred to as Jedi Malak, if he wasn't called Malak before don't you think they'd have used another name?
This wasn't like Obi Wan trying to cover up Vader's identity in episode 4. Why the name change?
I just got the new jedi vs sith guide that came out yesterday and on page 23 It says
......They drew the knowledge from the sith tombs and declared themselves to be the new Dark Lords of the Sith-Drath Revan and Darth Malak.
Because they were heroes of the mandalorian wars, many jedi knights regarded the "revanchist" and his former apprentice Alek as champions and eagerly joined their cause.
So Revan is the revanchist too, even though it was pretty obvious.
Malak and Revan were friends and peers, not master and apprentice this only happens when they became Sith, and even then I'd imagine it was far from a regular mentor-apprentice relationship.EDIT: Also, why is Malak callled Alek? The Kotor games pretty much state that neither Revan or Malak changed their names upon becoming Sith. Malak was referred to as Jedi Malak, if he wasn't called Malak before don't you think they'd have used another name?
Exactly, it was pretty much stated that 2 young knighs rebelled themselves against the order inaction, and if I am not wrong Dorak himself said that Malak was the first to rebelled when is FRIEND did the same. Revan and Malak were also is true names as far as it was stated, and as far as it was stated Revan was very young during the mandalorian wars. And he was NEVER the master from Malak...
If someone wanted to write about Malak and Revan they should have:
1) Check the canon story instead of change it all and star making stupid plot holes
2) Choose a good long-term story instead of trying to improvise in every comic
3) Last but not least, to finally choose a face to Revan. Just don't tell me that we will have Revan hooded in ALL damn comics...
And revanchism? Just lol...
Edit: If Revan was not is true name they why would Vandar tell the tale of "Revan, the prodigal knigth"? Right, let's use his sith name for a jedi tale...
Originally posted by kamhal
Exactly, it was pretty much stated that 2 young knighs rebelled themselves against the order inaction, and if I am not wrong Dorak himself said that Malak was the first to rebelled when is FRIEND did the same. Revan and Malak were also is true names as far as it was stated, and as far as it was stated Revan was very young during the mandalorian wars. And he was NEVER the master from Malak...If someone wanted to write about Malak and Revan they should have:
1) Check the canon story instead of change it all and star making stupid plot holes
2) Choose a good long-term story instead of trying to improvise in every comic
3) Last but not least, to finally choose a face to Revan. Just don't tell me that we will have Revan hooded in ALL damn comics...And revanchism? Just lol...
Edit: If Revan was not is true name they why would Vandar tell the tale of "[b]Revan
, the prodigal knigth"? Right, let's use his sith name for a jedi tell... [/B]
My interpretation of Revan being Malak's master is this. Dorak may be right that Revan was not Malak's jedi(or atleast officailly as in recognized by the council) master. But is very possible that Revan was already teaching Malak his views on different things such as the darkside and his views of the war as well as the force as a whole. Like it or not this is all canon now.
Originally posted by Darth Hord
My interpretation of Revan being Malak's master is this. Dorak may be right that Revan was not Malak's jedi(or atleast officailly as in recognized by the council) master. But is very possible that Revan was already teaching Malak his views on different things such as the darkside and his views of the war as well as the force as a whole. Like it or not this is all canon now.
That would be a good explanation in the retcon, but this was obviously not planned very well. There's nothing to indicate that Alek is anything but a light side Jedi, and the Revanchist seems significantly older than Alek.
Plus Revanchism and Revanchist, are the silliest concepts/terms they could come up with, it just makes the whole retcon look worse than the original "canon".
Truthfully, I expect another retcon in the near future, this is a mess. Revan and Malak's cool factor has been greatly reduced here.
Originally posted by Allankles
That would be a good explanation in the retcon, but this was obviously not planned very well. There's nothing to indicate that Alek is anything but a light side Jedi, and the Revanchist seems significantly older than Alek.Plus Revanchism and Revanchist, are the silliest concepts/terms they could come up with, it just makes the whole retcon look worse than the original "canon".
Truthfully, I expect another retcon in the near future, this is a mess. Revan and Malak's cool factor has been greatly reduced here.
I completely agree with you I hoped this gets fixed real soon and I hope the entire comic does not become noncannon cause Zayne is pretty interesting. Revan and Malak need their own book not some stupid comic for their background.
Originally posted by Darth Hord
My interpretation of Revan being Malak's master is this. Dorak may be right that Revan was not Malak's jedi(or atleast officailly as in recognized by the council) master. But is very possible that Revan was already teaching Malak his views on different things such as the darkside and his views of the war as well as the force as a whole. Like it or not this is all canon now.
Canon can be abandoned/altered.
Originally posted by Allankles
That would be a good explanation in the retcon, but this was obviously not planned very well. There's nothing to indicate that Alek is anything but a light side Jedi, and the Revanchist seems significantly older than Alek.Plus Revanchism and Revanchist, are the silliest concepts/terms they could come up with, it just makes the whole retcon look worse than the original "canon".
Truthfully, I expect another retcon in the near future, this is a mess. Revan and Malak's cool factor has been greatly reduced here.
It's not entirely out of the question to suppose that they were invariably referred to as "Revan" and "Malak" due to their fall, which they had begun towards when they defied the Council. They had ceased to be who they once were. We see evidence of this POV in Obi-Wan's reasoning for referring to Anakin only as "Vader," (aside from the obvious protection he meant to provide for Luke). The only thorn in the side of this explanation is why Vandar would refer to him as "Revan, the Prodigal Knight" after his redemption.
Originally posted by Melcórë
So did I. But it might make a bit more sense for them to take pseudonyms. "Malak" is still a puzzle, though....
From wookieepedia http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malak#Behind_the_scenes
Like many Sith Lords before and after him, Malak's name could be derived from real words:* It is possible that the name is taken from the Chinese word malaqiuse, meaning "one with no jaw". Similarly, mala is Latin for "jawbone." It should be noted, however, that Lead Writer Drew Karpyshyn has stated that the design team created the name "Darth Malak" before they decided to give the character a jaw injury.
* The Latin root mal- means "bad" or "evil" in various romance languages such as Spanish and French, and is the base of similar words such as malice. Therefore, a name derived from that root would be appropriate for a Sith Lord.
* The name also resembles the Greek word "Malakas", a slang word with various meanings, often used to describe aversion to another person.
* Malak is the Arabic and Hebrew word for "angel." While such a name might seem incongruous with Darth Malak's role as Sith Lord, he could be seen as a fallen angel due to his Jedi beginnings. Additionally, when the Semitic consonant stem "m-l-k" is rendered in Hebrew, it becomes a word for "king," "melech". This honorific would be fitting for an individual claiming a royal title such as "Dark Lord." :