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Originally posted by Gplex
People weaker and slower then Goku have showen to be able to do normal things at super speed.
That throws out the claim that they can't be fast while talking. (someone said cell had enough time to say something before goku release his warp kamehameha wave on him)
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Some people say that Goku takes hours to fly accross planets.
These people never post a scan of this. Goku is now far stronger/faster then the ginu force. This is before he reach the first SuperSaiyan level
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Some people say supes is faster
Supes has never been able to instantly get to top speed like the Z fighter do. Even at his top speed his effect on the enviroment isnt much diffrent from denda (who is one of the weakest namics)
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Some people say Goku could not stand up to the power of a nuke.
This explosion from Piccol is far more powerful then then a nuke (the entire city was either blown away or vaporised) - This was way back in Dragon ball (not part of z).
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Some people say Goku needs alot of time to transform or powerup a attack
Here is Goku transforming to SSJ3 before Superbuu can attack(He can always powerup even more if he has too)
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Here is Goku doing a Kamehameha to counter a attack from Napa, who was right in his face when releasing his attack.
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Goku has can also powerup while fighting he does not have to sit still.
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Supers looses heaps of power when he is hit by powerful attacks
Wonderwoman attacks is a weak compared to Goku and Supes. She manage to weaken Supes enought so he could rescue his friends quickly. Can you imagine Goku hits. He could output solor system attack that would do a tremedies amout of damage.
These are the pics that I saw Wonderwoman weakening Supes.
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Supes has never showen to be as powerful as Goku
He could barly vaporise a bunch of weak doomsday clones that even Batman could kill.
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Here is Supes saying he couldn't vaporise them again.
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Some people say Supes can't travel fast in earth atmosphere because would cause too much destruction.
Supes himself said he could move while supressing sonic booms.
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Here he is moving really fast without any atmospheric chaos
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The reason why goku could take hits from Supes.
Master Roshi could pulverise the moon. (powerlevel 139)
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Now Piccol did the same thing. (powerlevel 322) (Kame made another moon just in case you where wondering how could 2 moons be destroyed)
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But Piccol blast didnt do anything to Radiz (powerlevel 1200)
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Goku (powerlevel 8000) stop Nappa blast (powerlevel 5000).. just strug it off.
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Now anyone with a brain can see the ammount of damage someone like Nappa could cause... I let you figure out how much damage Goku could do when fighting frezia, with a powerlevel of over 11 million. Its hard to even think about how much energy Goku can produce at the end of dbz.
So can superman cause such damage? He can sure take that kind of damage but can he dish it out?
Superman is tough, durable and extremely smart.. but he could never hurt Goku (once powerup). Goku has proven he can take these hits as if they where nothing. If Supes can't dish it out hows he supose to beat Goku?

Some people say that these blast aren't enough to hurt Supes because the dont destroy the planet.
All the dragon ball fighters can concentrate their energy down to a single point
Here is Piccol and Goku doing this, in a attemp to beat radiz.
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Here is Vegeta concentrating his attack down to a small point
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This is the only reason why the planet does not get destroyed. Wouldn't be very smart of them to destroy the planet that they are on.