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Puhlease if I hadn't taken over that thread it would have sank and sank bad.


and if I hadnt started it you wouldnt have had anything to run in the first place.


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Supes got pwned by H/P. The motherbox was the only thing keeping him in the fight.



Bro I had a look at the fight. Superman lost but didnt get curbstomped. He put up a decent fight but lost cos he couldnt put him down.

Do you think Superman with motherbox > Silver Surfer, Thing, Human Torch and Mr Fantastic?

All the motherbox seemed to do is increase his HF and give him weapons. 1 Punsiher robot would probably still beat Superman with that gear.


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thats alot of prep and punisher is very good with prep, i think he gets over with the gl training of 100 years, imagin frank constrructing guns from his gl ring combined with his military training,


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thats alot of prep and punisher is very good with prep, i think he gets over with the gl training of 100 years, imagin frank constrructing guns from his gl ring combined with his military training,


Dont forget that it states that Frank is told that if he wins he gets his family back. Frank is already crazy and has alot of willpower with that amount of training he would probably become one of the most powerful GLs.....a parralax level is not out of the question.....


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Dont forget that it states that Frank is told that if he wins he gets his family back. Frank is already crazy and has alot of willpower with that amount of training he would probably become one of the most powerful GLs.....a parralax level is not out of the question.....
frank wins 100 years of gl experience is more than enough, and an accomplished gl with prep time on top of that he already great with prep


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Bro I had a look at the fight. Superman lost but didnt get curbstomped. He put up a decent fight but lost cos he couldnt put him down.

Do you think Superman with motherbox > Silver Surfer, Thing, Human Torch and Mr Fantastic?

All the motherbox seemed to do is increase his HF and give him weapons. 1 Punsiher robot would probably still beat Superman with that gear.


Are you insinuating that Surfer and co. can take down H/P Doomsday? no expression


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Are you insinuating that Surfer and co. can take down H/P Doomsday? no expression


Actually im not im saying SS + Thing + Human Torch + Mr Fantastic is at least equal to Supes with motherbox. I dont know for certain wether 1 Punisher robot could beat Doomsday but it would probably do better than Supeman with a motherbox. We could at the very least compare 1 robot to 1 Superman with box.

Doomsday did not just pimpslap supes and end the fight, supes but up a decent fight. Hell if thats what 1 supeman could do I dont think hes beating 3, 4, 5......10 no way.

Lets not forget that hes STARTS prep with just 10 robots. After 2 years he would probably have hundreds.

Several dozen Punisher robots destoryed Thanos's ship. So thanos's ship is rubbish? What would 100 Punisher robots do? erm

100s of Punsiher robots >>> H/P Doomsday. Hell not only that im pretty sure Frank would make modifications to the robots and make them even more lethal.


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DS casually backhands Frank into the heart of the Sun.


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Actually im not im saying SS + Thing + Human Torch + Reed = Supes with Motherbox


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DS casually backhands Frank into the heart of the Sun.


Didnt DD terrorize Apokolips?

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Dont see what your laughing at...the point is I can see SS and that lot doing as well as Superman did we that motherbox or possibly better.

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Didnt DD terrorize Apokolips?



Dont see what your laughing at...the point is I can see SS and that lot doing as well as Superman did we that motherbox or possibly better.


Slight difference. Doomsday was a veritable Juggernaut, he was nigh-unstoppable and could evolve a resistance against anything used against him. Also DS was a dumb-ass , he took DD on in his forte (namely H2H).

Frank on the other hand is just a punk with a ring. DS eats Gls for breakfast.

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Darkseid easily defeated Raker Quarrigat, the greatest Green Laantern of his age (the Hal Jordan of his time, bare in mind he defeated Klibak FAR easier than Hal did, granted a rookie Hal, but Hal was still stated as signifigantly more powerful than Kyle there), catching a GL-energy powered punch from Raker, and crushing his hand, sending him scurrying off to The Gaurdians, and intimidating him so that he beleived even they stood no chance against him:



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Later, Raker seeks out a rematch. He attacks Darkseid with a special weapon, utilizing his superior speed, and car

ries him into the air. Darkseid is unharmed, however, and talk as it happens. He charges up his Omega Effect, which is blocked by a GL construct. Te construct is strecthed, and bursts before the OE's power, sending them both to the floor. Raker attacks Darkseid whiel they're down there, again failing to hurt him and gets so desperate that he goes for a shovel, Darkseid charging up his OE to wipe Raker from existence, before The Gaurdians interfere using a force feild:



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Darkseid then bargains witht em that he'll end the war if he can keep Raker as his prisoner:



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Later, in the ish, Raker helps Orion and Kyle escape from Apokolips as Darkseid is going to OE them:



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A scene in Walt's Orion series later had Darkseid confirm that he could've easily killed Raker while he was on Apokolips at any time, but tolerated his existence, as he's useful :


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Frank on the other hand is just a punk with a ring.


Well maybe DS wins i'll see later but you obvoulsy dont know anything about the Punisher if you think hes a punk.

I take a look at the links later.

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Well maybe DS wins i'll see later but you obvoulsy dont know anything about the Punisher if you think hes a punk.

I take a look at the links later.
I know about the Punisher, but giving him a ring and chucking him at Darkseid is the equivalent of giving a Punk a ring.


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I know about the Punisher, but giving him a ring and chucking him at Darkseid is the equivalent of giving a Punk a ring.


Why? Willpower is one of the things that power the ring, Frank has one the greatest willpowers in the MU so when he gets the ring he wont just be a punk he would be very powerful, especially after 100 years.

What did showings scans of Raker getting pawned by DS prove? Did he have 100 years training?

Also Punisher robots are more powerful than average GLs. I would think Silver Surfer could stomp your average GL, and SS plus the FF sans Invisble Woman could not stop 1 Punisher robot.

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Raker was the best Green Lantern of the time, and trained the entire Corps. The Corps is what it is today, because of him.

He's not an average Lantern, he is one of the top elite


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Raker was the best Green Lantern of the time, and trained the entire Corps. The Corps is what it is today, because of him.

He's not an average Lantern, he is one of the top elite


Is Raker a native of apokalips? It certainly seemed that way in SC War.


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Is Raker a native of apokalips? It certainly seemed that way in SC War.


Nope, since the Green Lantern Corps lost the war to Apokolips the Guardians offered Raker as a trade for Darkseid to release all the other Green Lanterns he captured/defeated and that's why he was on the planet. The Guardians even removed all knowledge of Raker from the Book of Oa and erased all the memories of the Green Lanterns present at the battle. He was eventually freed by his new partner. However, he wasn't born on Apokolips


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