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Re: I need sources proving Palpatine's strength
Here are some sources along with the ones i took and borrowed from gideon.
The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. The Emperor had known it would be thus, of course; the resistance had not been a surprise to him. The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith to have ever existed.
-- Death Star, page 76.
"...Yoda could defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."
-- The New Essential Chronology, page 84
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
-- The Complete Visual Dictionary, page 72.
Page 109 from the Dark Empire sourcebook:
"Palpatine has risen from the dead. The most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived had returned."
Empire's End, one of the Sith spirits: "He gave up everything to the Dark Side long ago. He has become the greatest who ever lived. He is the strongest who ever lived....I say we give what he wishes."
Star Wars Insider, Kevin J. Anderson, upon asked if he ever intended his Sith to be stronger than the OT sith: No. Exar Kun, Naga Sadow and the others are on a firmly lower tier than Emperor Palpatine.
On TFN.net, official response to the strongest Sith: Palpatine at his peak.
Essential Chronology: the most powerful Sith who had ever lived, Emperor Palpatine had returned from the grave."
[The Galactic Emperor] had succeeded where all others failed in taming the Dark Side. He would journey across the universe, spreading the shadow of his rule, blotting out the stars themselves, and taking his Dark Rule to other helpless galaxies.
The dark side sourcebook.
^This quote in particular states that palpatine was the only man in the entire history of star wars to actually take control and tame the darkside whereas sith lords like revan, exar kun and so on were consumed by the dark side.
Theres also a quote gideon posted about palpatine mastering every aspect of the force, knowledge, alchemy, magic.
And that basically also means that he has not one but two defences against nihilus killer technique
-The fallanasi technique
-The technique zannah used with sith magic to hide her force sensitivity.
Theres too much evidence pointing that sidious IS the most powerful dark sider and sith lord ever for anybody to argue, as subjeckt once said, KIDS who play KOTOR think they can argue against that.
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Oh ok, sorry bout that.
Well regarding the feat he performed on byss, it was not really a direct attack the same way nihilus did.
His mere presence on byss was able to transform a "once lush and fertile" world into one of the most powerful dark side places in the galaxy as opposed to places like korriban and malachor V where it took centuries with large populations of the ancient sith to make it a powerful dark side site.
Gideon posted the quote which backs this up.
Regarding palpatine feeding off force energy, again it was not a direct attack. Once again his mere presence feeds of the energies of the citizens of byss draining them slowly yet keeping them alive.
you have to be a wound in the Force to survive Nihilus' attack
if you are connected to the Force you die and if you hide your Force presence...you're still connected to the Force and die
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One of the most stupid assumtions ever made, WHERE was it stated you have to be a wound to survive his attack? Prove it will work on an even stronger opponent seeing exar kun could resist a force sever technique.
And sadly if you mask your presence and force bond, he can't
1. Detect your force bond
2. Detect your force sensitivity
3.He can't touch your bond or your sensitivity hence the attack is useless.
Using the fallanasi technique makes it appear that you completely are out of the force.
because only a wound in the Force has no real connection to the Force
their life is completely independent of the Force
well, the Exile's was.
and Nihilus' technique severs the connection between the Force and life...if that connection does not exist it won't work
what Nihilus does is not Force Sever...and Nihilus is vastly stronger than Exar
that doesn't make any sense
that's like saying if i can't see you i can't reach out and hit you
you've hidden your Force sensitivity but it's still there and ready to be destroyed by Nihilus' power
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Uh wrong, the exile still could be sensed through the force, her connection is STILL there, its just that her bond was wounded.
Tell me, if the exile has no real connection or what so ever, how the hell does she feel the force let alone command it?
Again find a source and prove to me that only a wound in the force can block his attack, prove up or shut up which you have yet to do either.
And how is he going to sever a connection when its hidden, when he can't see it or sense it and literally not there when the fallanasi technique is applied?
It's similar, but it CAN be defended against.
Simply because you have ZERO common sense, if i'm invisible and your holding a gun, how the hell are you going to know where am i let alone try to kill me?
Provided he can touch the bond which he clearly can't, and for him to do that, he has to touch the bond which in this case he CANNOT sense it NOR can he touch it. Accept it and move on with life pal.
Even if i put up a shield to block lightning, i'm still standing there ready to get blown up PROVIDED my shield and defences drop.
Question, how do you touch or alter something which isn't there? When you apply the fallanasi technique, that happens, your connection isn't there, its well hidden and nihilus can't do anything to touch palpatines or luke skywalkers bond.
Hell prove you can touch the bond of somebody FAR more powerful than nihilus.
Force bonds healed her
that's obvious to anyone who played the game
other senses ?
get banned again already you troll
the bond is still there and doesn't vanish unless your life is completely separate from the Force
being hidden =/= it isn't there
far more powerful ?
that's pretty stretching it
Palpatine is above Nihilus but Nihilus could give him a good fight
and i can't prove it because well that's the dumbest thing in the history of existence to ask proof for
"PROVE Palpatine's Force Storm will work on someone more powerfult han himself"
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And what does it mean when force bonds healed her? Shes connected to the force?
You have none, i was merely commenting on your lack of competence and common sense.
Right, its still there, only that nihilus can't reach out to it, touch it sense it see it or do shit to it.
It completely masks your force sensitivity, nihilus would be BLINDED to the user.
being hidden =/= it isn't there
According to the ancient sith and dark empire: Yes.
Palpatine mastered EVERY force technique according to the dark empire source book, palpatine KNOWS techniques that nihilus has never even heard of and palpatine knows several insta kill attacks that would own nihilus.
Oh right and palpatines most powerful attack was dubbed prehaps the most powerful force ability ever[/b].
Right and you still have yet to prove how is nihilus going to even touch the bond of a superior opponent.
If you can't prove it or provide an argument at all, its best you concede, And how exactly is nihilus going to give palpatine a good fight?
Wow asking proof = dumb. Great logic!
Lol asking me to prove a negative? Firstly it ravages planets, secondly it destroys massive ships 17 km long, Lastly it could wipe out entire armada's. So if you had logic, it would work on somebody inferior.
You seem to fit that case.
Go to Wookiepedia like all the other lazy bastards who can't be bothered to find the actual source on their own.
I'm one of 'em.
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