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Zum's powerful, but he's no Superman, nor Flash, nor Silver Surfer.
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May 28th, 2008 04:48 PM
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I only follow what the comics say.
Even so, taking him out with a single punch is strong, not to mention being capable of launching a thousand punches just like that.
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May 28th, 2008 04:49 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
I only follow what the comics say.
Even so, taking him out with a single punch is strong, not to mention being capable of launching a thousand punches just like that.
Sometimes these things have validity, sometimes they don't.
How many times has a character been repped to hit as hard or harder than Superman? How many times is it actually true? Who actually believes that Sentry defeated Galactus?
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May 28th, 2008 04:53 PM
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Ohhhh, my mistake, I thought you were referring to Zoom.
Well, I don't know much about him (Zum), so I'll refrain from commenting.
However, in regards to Surfer vs. Flash, if there's one character who can handle anything Flash can dish it's Norrin. Flash is slightly faster, but Surfer can counter with his relative speed. Furhtermore, with his arsenal of tactics (Transmutation, Blasts, Phasing, Forcefield, limited TP etc...) at his disposal, Norrin (IMO) would take a healthy majority away from Wally.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by nimbus006
Ohhhh, my mistake, I thought you were referring to Zoom.
Well, I don't know much about him (Zum), so I'll refrain from commenting.
However, in regards to Surfer vs. Flash, if there's one character who can handle anything Flash can dish it's Norrin. Flash is slightly faster, but Surfer can counter with his relative speed. Furhtermore, with his arsenal of tactics (Transmutation, Blasts, Phasing, Forcefield, limited TP etc...) at his disposal, Norrin (IMO) would take a healthy majority away from Wally.
Meh, Wally can heal better, he's faster, more striking power. Only needs to connect once to end it, Sufer's not fast enough to get away.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Acrosurge
Sometimes these things have validity, sometimes they don't.
How many times has a character been repped to hit as hard or harder than Superman? How many times is it actually true? Who actually believes that Sentry defeated Galactus?
Wally has known Superman for many years, if anyone's going to make a good estimate of his power level, it's him! Unlike Spidey who knows jack all about Galactus and had forgotten about the Sentry.
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May 28th, 2008 04:55 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Meh, Wally can heal better, he's faster, more striking power. Only needs to connect once to end it, Sufer's not fast enough to get away.
You reall think he can heal better than Norrin, who by the way has the power to heal others?
He might not be fast enough to get away, but he should be fast enough to at least target and strike at Flash, which cosmic awareness should help with.
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May 28th, 2008 05:00 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by nimbus006
You reall think he can heal better than Norrin, who by the way has the power to heal others?
He might not be fast enough to get away, but he should be fast enough to at least target and strike at Flash, which cosmic awareness should help with.
Wally heals those crazy lethal injuries over and over, Norrin has decent regeneration as well, but nothing on par with Wally.
Surfer could probably take off in one direction while getting up a forceshield or something, which SHOULD stop Flash in theory. But I'm not sure if Surfer has a past of thinking at high speeds.
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May 28th, 2008 05:02 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Wally heals those crazy lethal injuries over and over, Norrin has decent regeneration as well, but nothing on par with Wally.
Surfer could probably take off in one direction while getting up a forceshield or something, which SHOULD stop Flash in theory. But I'm not sure if Surfer has a past of thinking at high speeds.
He's was built to think at high speeds in order to travel through space and time, and find energy sources for his master.
It's not possible to travel that fast without having the ability of rapid thought process.
How do you think he can scan the Earth in seconds to locate someone?
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May 28th, 2008 05:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by nimbus006
He's was built to think at high speeds in order to travel through space and time, and find energy sources for his master.
It's not possible to travel that fast without having the ability of rapid thought process.
I concur.
Surfer should be able to pull out a majority then, assuming he uses that tactic.
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May 28th, 2008 05:06 PM
nimbus006
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
I concur.
Surfer should be able to pull out a majority then, assuming he uses that tactic.
No doubt Flash would give him trouble (maybe take 2 or 3/10), but for the most part Surfer should be able to handle Flash.
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May 28th, 2008 05:08 PM
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SS won't hit Flash with his energy attacks nor physical. Flash can accelerate his molecules at super speed and Phase through SS's on coming attacks. And while doing that he can also impart speed to SS and cause him to crash into something.
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May 28th, 2008 05:28 PM
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May 28th, 2008 05:30 PM
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Has Flash ever phased through energy attacks?
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May 28th, 2008 05:32 PM
nimbus006
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Has Flash ever phased through energy attacks?
Beats me, but it is quite a different type of feat, than phasing through solid matter, that is.
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May 28th, 2008 05:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Has Flash ever phased through energy attacks?
Flash can adsorb it by moving at super speed. Because the energy collied with his aura that the Speed Force creates around him.
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May 28th, 2008 05:40 PM
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^lol hell no.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Marvelknight
SS won't hit Flash with his energy attacks nor physical. Flash can accelerate his molecules at super speed and Phase through SS's on coming attacks. And while doing that he can also impart speed to SS and cause him to crash into something.
Hrm. I think that Surfer would have more control over his molecules than Flash. I'm a bit skeptical that Flash could even phase through the Surfer to begin with. Are there instances of Flash phasing through people of comparable durability?
Antigravity followed by an area attack would probably be Surfer's simplest strategy here.
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May 28th, 2008 05:45 PM
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Flash can absorb plenty of stuff actually.
Didn't he once absorb the kinetic energy of an entire planet or something like that? I'm sure ror has it in his respect thread
Flash has shown to be weak to telepathic attacks though, Surfer could get 10 easy wins like that.
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May 28th, 2008 05:46 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by psycho gundam
^lol hell no.
You don't know what the hell your talking about. I've seen him do it before.
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Surfer has hit a phased opponent before in Vision.
May 28th, 2008 05:55 PM
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