"Given time to prepare, he'd definitely win, like with the Hulkbuster armour.", "Has it ever beaten Hulk?", "I don't think so.".
He's had many version of Hulkbuster armours, none of them have shown capable of threatening Hulk, even the most powerful one, which Iron Man himself was afraid of using. It's never made him equal to Hulk, ever.
Iron Man wouldn't ever win, end.
Fact is, I think Iron Man is badass for never backing down despite ALWAYS knowing he'll lose. It's really quite great, it's one of the reasons I like him. He just doesn't win. People stronger than Iron Man have fallen to Hulk.
He couldn't, ever. Everything that has ever happened has suggested otherwise.
How are you even suggesting that? What is he going to come up with? He has admitted he can't beat Hulk. He has HAD time to prepare before, hence why he went AWAY, prepared, came back with Hulkbuster armour and got treated like a sardine can. If he can't beat him in the comics, as an experienced superhero, he's not going to beat him as a learner in the movies, is he? Hulk was strolling along using tanks as olympic hammers, how is Iron Man, who struggled with Iron Monger, going to beat him?
If people smarter and stronger than Iron Man are at a loss on how to "beat" Hulk, how do you suppose Iron Man will?
This is genuinely tweaking my curiousity now.
What's this obsession with preptime that geeks have? "With enough time...", with enough time what? He'd still lose.
What I always find funny when a 'Batman vs *uber character*' comes up, it's always:
Batman fanboy: Batman can win with prep time.
Other guy: What could he do in this instance to beat *uber character*?
Batman fanboy: He'd find a way.
Other guy: Can you name a way?
Batman fanboy: Batman always wins.
I completely agree with you there. There is really no real reason why Batman can beat Superman(and hasn't ever really in current continuity) There's really nothing stopping supes from chucking Wayne Manor into space before Batman can form a coherent thought
That's not really a win in a Vs. fight, I don't think. It's similar to Iron Man flying off and waiting for the Hulk to turn into Banner and then arbitrarily calling a victory.
If that is allowed as a "win", then Betty Ross can beat the Hulk in a fight, as she has to do is look calmly at him and let him transform back into Banner.
Hulk was already weakened, then he was stunned by the explosion HE caused and Iron Man landed some good punches. It wasn't what the panels make it out to be, and Hulk got up literally seconds later. It's also Mindless Hulk, he doesn't really retain any of Banner's intelligence like usual, so he's not as skilled of a fighter either.
Furthermore, note what Iron Man says:
"I've almost died trying to beat Hulk in the past and I've never succeeded.". He has fought Hulk many times BEFORE that fight and many times AFTER, he's never won them.
He knows Hulk is stronger, he knows Hulk is more powerful.
Only recently he used the strongest Hulkbuster armour available and still lost.
Wasp flew inside Hulk's ear and put him unconscious. Poorly written or not, possibly a win, but it doesn't mean she can beat him in a FIGHT.
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Then you consider the fact that Hulk beat him AND the Avengers recently, despite Iron Man having stronger Hulkbuster armour.
Hulk has beaten Abomination in a fist fight every time they've met, and you're going to suggest he can beat the Hulk in a fight? The best he has EVER done is knock the Hulk out, for a bit, as seen above. He then fell into unconsciousness because he couldn't take it, so it's not really a win. He fought to a stalemate with Sentry, the man that EVERY Earth hero (Including Iron Man) was relying on to beat him.
He can't beat him, he's never beaten the Hulk.
Iron Man is stronger and more powerful than EVER right now, and he still hasn't beaten him.
Though this is all irrelevant, since we're discussing Movie Iron Man Vs Movie Hulk, right? Well, movie Hulk would win. Movie Iron Man couldn't beat Iron Monger, really. Hulk would have.
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Airborne attacks are Iron Man's best strategy. What we need to know here is how tough is Iron Man's suit in the movie. In the comics his suit can be at times as hard as Adamentium.
Precisely, it's his best strategy, but it couldn't do a damn thing. Why is it his best strategy? Cos he's far from Hulk. Why is that the best? Because if he wasn't far from Hulk he's be under Hulk's foot, as we've seen all the time, especially recently, and above in his Silver Centurion armour (One of his most powerful armours).
Adamantium hasn't proven too much of a trouble for Hulk in the past, but this isn't about the comics.
For the record, his armour has never been as hard as adamantium. He created an armour that was laced with it, but he didn't really use it himself, it just controlled it. Pure adamantium is stronger. Iron Man has never had an armour that strong.
He specified in the movie that his suit is a titanium alloy. That's tooth floss to Hulk. If F-22 Raptor bullets can pick apart bits of the armour, Hulk will treat it like a can of tuna.
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