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No, but he could be.
He is God's Vengeance after all.

LT is NOT directly empowered by GOD.
He is superceded by TOAA, who in turn is empowered by GOD.
Lt>dov Spectre. So,with protege copying someone more powerful than dov Spectre I think its safe to assume he easily copies Spectre's powers, since Black Alice can outright steal them.


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Spectre has no power on his own really, he only gets what God chooses to give him at the moment. So what your saying is that Protege can copy God.


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Spectre has no power on his own really, he only gets what God chooses to give him at the moment. So what your saying is that Protege can copy God.
That's a clever bit of twisting. In that case, try this lil twister, DC has already published a comic where Black Alice steals God.


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Spectre has no power on his own really, he only gets what God chooses to give him at the moment. So what your saying is that Protege can copy God.
Prove this.


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That's a clever bit of twisting. In that case, try this lil twister, DC has already published a comic where Black Alice steals God.


No she merely siphoned power from the Spectre that God gave him.

There is a difference between stealing power and copying abilities.


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No she merely siphoned power from the Spectre that God gave him.

There is a difference between stealing power and copying abilities.
No... she outright stole em all... left Spectre a powerless ghost for a while. She's not like Rogue, it's not gradual. She just does it. There is a difference between stealing and copying. I think stealing God's power is harder than imitating God's power... if that is where this conversation is leading.


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Prove this.


Many times in the comics including recently God has stopped the Spectre from using power such as the Libra battle. Also it's one of the reasons that The Spectre's power over DC history has been so fluctuated.


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Yo.

Protege only copied LTs form and as I recall DID NOT demonstrate *any* power that LT could potentially have, so saying "Protege copied LT" is highly erroneous.

as for the question asked, Spectre takes this since he can simply make the kids eyes melt w/o demonstrating any blatantly obvious ability to do so.





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Yo.

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Spectre has no power on his own really, he only gets what God chooses to give him at the moment. So what your saying is that Protege can copy God.


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Prove this.


as I recall we find this out in Swamp Thing right after CoIE, much to Spec's chagrin......




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Many times in the comics including recently God has stopped the Spectre from using power such as the Libra battle. Also it's one of the reasons that The Spectre's power over DC history has been so fluctuated.
god didnt stop Spectre's power in dov.


Sure, he gets his power from this source but saying he has to have it taken grom god is incorrect, because BA temporarily stole it and god had nothing to do with that.


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Yo.

Protege only copied LTs form and as I recall DID NOT demonstrate *any* power that LT could potentially have, so saying "Protege copied LT" is highly erroneous.

as for the question asked, Spectre takes this since he can simply make the kids eyes melt w/o demonstrating any blatantly obvious ability to do so.





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He copied his power imo. Saying he only copied his form is completely ignoring Protege's power.


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Yo.





as I recall we find this out in Swamp Thing right after CoIE, much to Spec's chagrin......




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You didnt answer the whole question. Prove god can amp the Spectre's power during a fight.


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He copied his power imo. Saying he only copied his form is completely ignoring Protege's power.


sure he copied his power.....the power to have a tri-face.

Protege doesnt copy EVERYTHING a person can do all at once, but only wat he observes; saying he did just that to LT is RIDICULOUSLY inflating wat Protege was capable of *or* stated to be able to do.


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You didnt answer the whole question. Prove god can amp the Spectre's power during a fight.


the question wasnt "could God amp Spec in the middle of a fight", and as such I *have* answered it.




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Spectre has no power on his own really, he only gets what God chooses to give him at the moment. So what your saying is that Protege can copy God.
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Yo.



sure he copied his power.....the power to have a tri-face.

Protege doesnt copy EVERYTHING a person can do all at once, but only wat he observes; saying he did just that to LT is RIDICULOUSLY inflating wat Protege was capable of *or* stated to be able to do.




the question wasnt "could God amp Spec in the middle of a fight", and as such I *have* answered it.




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Protege copies one's abilities not one's appearance. I put his quote up because I also wanted him to prove that copying the Spectre's power was the same as copying god's. Care to answer the whole question.


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god didnt stop Spectre's power in dov.


Sure, he gets his power from this source but saying he has to have it taken grom god is incorrect, because BA temporarily stole it and god had nothing to do with that.


It's not the Spectre's natural power. It's power he's given by God. Thats why Siphoning would work but copying would not.


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first spectre muzzles that little punkass. then give him the thumbs down.


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It's not the Spectre's natural power. It's power he's given by God. Thats why Siphoning would work but copying would not.
I don't get this logic :/

so you can siphon god's power but can't copy it? based on what exactly?


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It's not the Spectre's natural power. It's power he's given by God. Thats why Siphoning would work but copying would not.
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I don't get this logic :/

so you can siphon god's power but can't copy it? based on what exactly?
Id also like to hear a further explanation of this logic.


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This is like saying Amazo can copy the IG in time.


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Yo.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Protege copies one's abilities not one's appearance.


right, and there he copied LT's ability to have a tri-face.

now, unless U can show us ANY OTHER ABILITY/POWER that LT displayed and/or that Protege copied from him in that issue.....yur point is null & void.


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I put his quote up because I also wanted him to prove that copying the Spectre's power was the same as copying god's. Care to answer the whole question.


thats not an argument Im defending, ALTHO since God does give Spec his power he would technically be copying His power.......sorta.

but regardless, I *did answer* the question that was asked; that U changed it afterward is another story.





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