Re: Which movies based upon comics are the most true to the comics?
all good choices except the last two posted.they were a disgrace to the comic and not loyal to it at all. You just said Batman so I automatically assumed you were talking about ALL the Batman movies including those disgraceful Burton/Schumacher films? The Nolan Batman films are the only ones that shouldnt be burned.
I would go with the first four you listed plus the ones Bruce Skywalker listed as well.
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I don't know. They totally changed Papa Midnite's, the Snob's and Chas' character. They made Constantine a repenting catholic...dude...seriously. The setting was totally different (not just different as in not England), it was a different world, with totally different rules. And man, Constantine beats cancer and then goes on to chew gum? That's so the opposite of the character it was the saddest thing I've ever seen.
Now, don't get me wrong, I thought it was a good, very enjoyable movie. But true to the comic? No. In nothing but name.
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Thanks. I do agree with Schumacher films as being disgraceful but how are Burton versions disgraceful? Nolan films definitely have a lot of issues when it comes to the characters depicted and there stories. I know there are a lot of different versions of Batman so my picks actually only pertain to Burton and Nolan films since that come the close to depicting the combine versions of Batman.
Maybe it's because how dark and gritty the film was (i was blinded) but up until the end i thought Contantines character was spot on. The whole suicide thing was unexpected and out of place but i don't think constantines religion has aW little bearing on anything. He was the same cynical narcissist. We get to see the Whimsy from the comic in the devils performance. I don't know. you're right. I guess i just listed this because it's one of my favorite adaptations.
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oh dude, don't mess with Parker when it comes to Burtons' Batman movie's. Trust me dude. I love 89 Batman and Parker LOATHES Burtons' Batman film's. Seriously, unless you just want to argue for days until you eventually have to agree to disagree, don't bother waking that sleeping dog
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In another thread I am seeing how much he does not like the Burton films. Still don't understand how someone who knows about Batman from the original comics could like Nolan films so much.
i don't believe anyone who says x-men 2 actually reads the comics...
terrible characterisation in places.
also:
iron man
the recent hulk
blade wasnt similar in several ways, but it was a damn fine movie imo, as was the sequel.
the reeve superman movies
the crow
sin city (obviously)
the burton baman movies arent as close to the mainstream comics as they could be, but i think they captured the spirit of the characters well enough...
Considering how badly the characters had been adjusted and just flat out neglected in the first film. The second movie, actually felt like an X-men story, regardless of the poor character translations. The first xmen movie didn't feel anything like the x-men. It was good, but the story was stupid and as a fan we had to endure seeing our characters being introduced as other characters. X-2, however, i think, definitely captured the x-men spirit, in story.
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As to excellent movies that is for opinion. I only favor Betman Begins. As for being close to the comics, yes I agree certian comics as are Burtons films.
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What comics would that be? To me, the Burton movies are in a Burton Universe...the Nolan ones are in a DC-esque one.
Now, I disagree with Parker, I liked the movies, I don't need panel to panel transition. And I think the movies were good, by themselves, I like Burton's style and that was present throughout them, but true to the comics, I don't think they are, none of the comics I know.
I am only referring to the way the characters are portrayed. If you are referring to story line than please tell me how Nolan does better? None of the movies are true to the comics in terms of story. If you go by the story of the characters then I say Burton is truer when it comes to the background of the characters.
Just two examples for you. Since I do not keep up with the new comics I am going off of my knowledge. The Joker has always been a crime lord that was chemically deformed which made him insane. When has Batman ever had one teacher as shown in Batman Begins as an attribute to his skills? From my knowledge he has had many in all different areas and Ra's al Ghul was not one of them.
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The Joker's background story is hazy at best. Alan Moore's Killing Joke is one of the more famous ideas, but Joker himself stated something like him himself not knowing what actually happend. You are right about him not having a chelsea smile in the comics though. Minor adjustment, really. The Ra's Al Ghul thing, I agree...partly, though, again, it doesn't really change the character, it just gives it a more relatable story...and we don't exactly know what Wayne did before he met Ra's, we only know that Ra's was his last teacher, he probably had quite a few before (seeing how he knows Kung Fu already).
The point though is, to me, that the characters behaviour, is in line with what they might do in the comics. It's very close to certain portrayals of the character, and though the backstory might be updated, or made more "realistic", the characters themself are close to what they are conceived as in the Comics. As such I'd say that Nolan's Batman, is an adaptation of the comics, while Burton feels more like a gritty, dark, Burtonesque version of the 60s cartoon. If you know what I mean.
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simple.Nolan cared about what the fans wanted.He didnt cast a guy who was a pudgy gut,receding hairline,half bald, short runt for tall,muscular,handsome full set of hair Bruce Wayne and Batman never killed people in cowardly ways like he did in those disgraceful pathetic Burton films among many other things that I could go on and on about.And Batman Begins did what Batman 89 did,have the movie be mostly about Batman instead of The Joker with Batman having just a supporting role in them.Batman 89 is a boring, disgraceful snoozefest.
Show me a Batman issue where Bruce Wayne is a pudgy gut,receding hairline,half bald, short runt.You wont find one.Clooney was the only worst casting choice for that part than Keaton was.That guy is one ugly looking dude.Just look at the ALL RIGHT TIM BURTON IS A MORON WHEN IT COMES TO BATMAN thread in the Batman section.Its like on page three or four there and myself and many others there listed those kinds of complaints there.
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