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iceman24567
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There is no question that Sentry at his best stomps Hyperion. Supreme Power Hype's best feats are dwarfed by Sentry's best feats.
Sentry's low feats dwarf Hyperion's lowest feats laughing


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Stated in a narration panel, narrated by a military scientist tracking Hyperion's fight with Dr. Spectrum.



Yes. So says Spiderman. If Reed Richards or Silver Surfer had said it, it would be more credible. In this case, a military scientist who was keeping tabs on Hyperion's fight is a credible source...while a street-level Spiderman saying something about a member of the Celestial Trinity is most certainly not.





Why does Spiderman commenting that Sentry stalemated Galactus detract from his credibility at all? Should it matter who's eyes witnessed it? You're being biased plain and simple. A nameless scientist is more credible than a hero? There's a scan that theorizes that at Hyperion's apex of power rogue he'd cause atomic weapon type destruction but I've been to the Hype respect thread multiple times (I actually enjoy Supreme Power Hyperion) and I've never seen the quote you're referring to. I'd think it'd be in there considering it'd be a great compliment to his feats but if I'm wrong point me in the direction. Sentry in control, confident and unconcerned with unleashing his power will win and in exercising his other abilities he walks all over Hyperion. Also the Void and Sentry recently merged if I am correct (don't quote me on that) but that makes them one and the same so they are one being so Sentry should also have access to his powerset as they are a single fused being.

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Why does Spiderman commenting that Sentry stalemated Galactus detract from his credibility at all? Should it matter who's eyes witnessed it? You're being biased plain and simple. A nameless scientist is more credible than a hero? There's a scan that theorizes that at Hyperion's apex of power rogue he'd cause atomic weapon type destruction but I've been to the Hype respect thread multiple times (I actually enjoy Supreme Power Hyperion) and I've never seen the quote you're referring to. I'd think it'd be in there considering it'd be a great compliment to his feats but if I'm wrong point me in the direction. Sentry in control, confident and unconcerned with unleashing his power will win and in exercising his other abilities he walks all over Hyperion. Also the Void and Sentry recently merged if I am correct (don't quote me on that) but that makes them one and the same so they are one being so Sentry should also have access to his powerset as they are a single fused being.


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Is that a theory because until he lifts a continent nothing is proven just as the Sentry/Galactus/Spiderman fiasco. I'm just giing Hyperion the same treatment everyone seems so enthusiastic about giving Sentry

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Is that a theory because until he lifts a continent nothing is proven just as the Sentry/Galactus/Spiderman fiasco. I'm just giing Hyperion the same treatment everyone seems so enthusiastic about giving Sentry


If you want to call satellite recon and movements that set off things on the Ritcher scale a 'theory' you can be my guest.

It's much more solid evidence than Spiderman saying something about someone (Galactus) who he knows nothing about and couldn't have possibly been there.

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Spiderman knows about Galactus, Spiderman is probably the most knowledgeable Marvel character. erm


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There's plenty of evidence to suggest that Sentry is much more than an agrophobic, skitsophrenic, dissociative identity disorder latent copy of Superman. And theres much evidence suggesting that he has the potential to transcend that watermark but people incessantly put him down because of the idiotic writing that has engulfed him. Take a look at his earlier appearances, when he's confident and in control with no fear no Earth dwelling entity is touching him.

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but people incessantly put him down because of the idiotic writing that has engulfed him.


Trust me, my friend; we only put him down because the writers did first...


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Trust me, my friend; we only put him down because the writers did first...


Yea so? Because characters like Sentry, Gladiator and Apocalypse are written as idiots who magically forget their vast array of powers we write them off? Aren't forum rules characters fight to their fullest potential and without PIS/CIS? It's funny when Superman or Silver Surfer are beaten by bricks and Sentry stalemates one while fighting idiotically...Sentry is immediately hastled no such luck for Supes or SS, why is that? Why the bias?

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Sentry's low feats dwarf Hyperion's lowest feats laughing


And yet Hype exists in a world where all other powers derive from his ship which goes to why is is the most powerful in that world. He seems about equal to Ultimate Thor (who is far below 616 Thor) until he gets a nova flame/ sundip to power him up. That I have seen, he has atomic bomb level durability, at least close to light speed movement and not sure what his best strength feat is. But then we have Sentry who at his most powerful could destroy the world if he has a bad day, is considered absolutely unstoppable if he really unleashed everything he has, who divides his personas and never unleashes his full potential but we get glimpses of it when other characters hit him with everything they've got and it has absolutely zero effect when he's at his most powerful.

So we have a guy who seems unstoppably powerful in a world where all other powers derive from the same thing that is less than him and who seems about equal with one of the Ultimate Universes heavy hitters against a guy who, at his best, can curbstomp the entire Marvel 616 universe if he takes himself off the leash.

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Yea so? Because characters like Sentry, Gladiator and Apocalypse are written as idiots who magically forget their vast array of powers we write them off? Aren't forum rules characters fight to their fullest potential and without PIS/CIS? It's funny when Superman or Silver Surfer are beaten by bricks and Sentry stalemates one while fighting idiotically...Sentry is immediately hastled no such luck for Supes or SS, why is that? Why the bias?


It's easy to write off a few low showings, but Sentry turned into a joke and Marvel has shown little interest in bringing him back.

Oh, and you think I'm biased...against Sentry... confused


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It's easy to write off a few low showings, but Sentry turned into a joke and Marvel has shown little interest in bringing him back.


I don't know why you'd say that. I love what they've done to his character for Dark Reign. And DA #2? Pure badassness.

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He doesn't really have one. He's powered up by solar energy like Supes. He seemed sort of weak against Dr. Spectrum's energy because it was the same power source from Mark's spaceship. I dunno if it was because he was weak to it or it was more powerful than the other stuff he's faced.
no I wuz thinking of that comic (not sure if its Supreme Power) where Doom creates this infection or something that emit radiation that allmost kills Hype

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no I wuz thinking of that comic (not sure if its Supreme Power)


It's not. Different universe. Different Hyperion.

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I don't know why you'd say that. I love what they've done to his character for Dark Reign. And DA #2? Pure badassness.


Maybe, but it's still too early to be sure. I hope they keep moving in that direction though.


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