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Wolverine would be a bloody mess, they would probably stop the fight.


Only if the blood impairs his fighting or becomes unsafe to the fighter, but with that healing factor and never say die attitude the fight wouldn't be stopped because of it.


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if the blood goes in their eyes, and since the rules weren't moddified = fight stoppage no matter what.

logan can't make cage bleed period, but cage can make logan bleed plenty. the strength advantage and small ring size pretty much gives cage the dominent role in the fight, if he gets a hold of him or worse gets a mount on wolverine, def tko.


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Only if the blood impairs his fighting or becomes unsafe to the fighter, but with that healing factor and never say die attitude the fight wouldn't be stopped because of it.
Never die attitude wouldn't really affect much, a cut over the eye has stopped many fighters from finishing their fights, no matter how much they wanted to continue.

The Ref would deem that the blood covering Wolverine's eyes would impair his ability to fight safely.


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if the blood goes in their eyes = fight stoppage no matter what. ufc/mma rules don't take into account powers, so it wouldn't be any different.
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Logan wins. He could easily make it go to decision.

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stopage is extremely unlikly. Logan body would heal the damage area extremely fast and bleeding would stop almost instantly.

also blood in the eye is not an immediate stoppage. I have seen fighters fight with cuts over there eyes. It really depends if they allow it to show it effecting them greatly. Some one with Logans senshes could easily keep fighting as if nothing was wrong

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stopage is extremely unlikly. Logan body would heal the damage area extremely fast and bleeding would stop almost instantly.

also blood in the eye is not an immediate stoppage. I have seen fighters fight with cuts over there eyes. It really depends if they allow it to show it effecting them greatly. Some one with Logans senshes could easily keep fighting as if nothing was wrong

The blood would stop if he were not hit again, do you really think that would happen in a small octagon?

Really, because every time I've seen someone get blood in their eye the fights stop almost immediately, or within the next couple hits.


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a luke cage ground & pound would make him bleed.


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The blood would stop if he were not hit again, do you really think that would happen in a small octagon?

Really, because every time I've seen someone get blood in their eye the fights stop almost immediately, or within the next couple hits.

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the blood would stop reguardless if he was hit again. also you keep assuming Luke going to be land a lot of hits he aint, nor wil it be easy to causes Logan the cut over the eye and bleed a lot. Not to mention the fact Logan even if he had blood in his eyes could fight as if he was fine, which would mean it unlikly any type of stopagae would occure

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a luke cage ground & pound would make him bleed.

yea and how does he get the faster, more agile and vastly superior fight to the ground?

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if the blood goes in their eyes, and since the rules weren't moddified = fight stoppage no matter what.

logan can't make cage bleed period, but cage can make logan bleed plenty. the strength advantage and small ring size pretty much gives cage the dominent role in the fight, if he gets a hold of him or worse gets a mount on wolverine, def tko.


Not exactally true, blood can always get in the eye even from a cut on the forehead, or below the eye but that does not justify a stoppage as per the rules. A justifed stoppage would be a cut above the eye, with a continous amount of blood flowing into the eye, as the stoppage would be from the blood imparing the figher or it's dangerous to the fighter to continue (as per the MMA rules) which would not be the case with Wolverine. Also that's definetly not true at all the fight would be stopped no matter what. Far from it actually. There have been MANY MANY MANY mma fights that have become a complete and utter bloodbath, but were not stopped. Wolverine would not be continously bleeding either as I mentioned earlier.

If the likes of Hulk, Sasquatch, Wendigo etc. can't make him a bloody mess it's very very unlikely Cage can. Heck, Wolverine fights in frequent tight quarters this is not anything special. Also in mma settings having just strength is not an instant win as many many many mma matches have shown.

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Never die attitude wouldn't really affect much, a cut over the eye has stopped many fighters from finishing their fights, no matter how much they wanted to continue.

The Ref would deem that the blood covering Wolverine's eyes would impair his ability to fight safely.


Because it impaired their fighting, and was continually bleeding making it unsafe for the fighter to continue which wouldn't be the case for Wolverine

Wolverine would easily recover, blood would not stop the fight with Wolverine.
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Quick question out of this thread who here follows MMA? WEC was tonight, and was pretty awful.


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I'd just like to say, WW Hulk was hitting Logan far harder than Cage ever could, and his face wasn't really bloody, just seriously bruised. He did knock him unconscious though, after a bunch of punches to the face.

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I watch MMA love that shit.

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Not exactally true, blood can always get in the eye even from a cut on the forehead, or below the eye but that does not justify a stoppage as per the rules. A justifed stoppage would be a cut above the eye, with a continous amount of blood flowing into the eye, as the stoppage would be from the blood imparing the figher or it's dangerous to the fighter to continue (as per the MMA rules) which would not be the case with Wolverine. Also that's definetly not true at all the fight would be stopped no matter what. Far from it actually. There have been MANY MANY MANY mma fights that have become a complete and utter bloodbath, but were not stopped. Wolverine would not be continously bleeding either as I mentioned earlier.

If the likes of Hulk, Sasquatch, Wendigo etc. can't make him a bloody mess it's very very unlikely Cage can. Heck, Wolverine fights in frequent tight quarters this is not anything special. Also in mma settings having just strength is not an instant win as many many many mma matches have shown.



Because it impaired their fighting, and was continually bleeding making it unsafe for the fighter to continue which wouldn't be the case for Wolverine

Wolverine would easily recover, blood would not stop the fight with Wolverine.
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Quick question out of this thread who here follows MMA? WEC was tonight, and was pretty awful.



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Exactly right. I haven't watched WEC in a long time...I need to catch up on it.


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Exactly right. I haven't watched WEC in a long time...I need to catch up on it.


I'm glad their focusing on the lightweight divisions now, but some of the fights tonight were properly the worst I have ever seen. In one fight (Rob McCullough vs. Marcus Hicks) the referee told both fights if they don't fight he was going to call it a no-contest. It was bad, real bad.

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Really, because every time I've seen someone get blood in their eye the fights stop almost immediately, or within the next couple hits.


It's not, it's only stopped as mentioned if it impairs the fighters ability to fight or is dangerous for him/her to continue. Blood in the eyes is most definetly NOT an instant fight stoppage


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the blood would stop reguardless if he was hit again. also you keep assuming Luke going to be land a lot of hits he aint, nor wil it be easy to causes Logan the cut over the eye and bleed a lot. Not to mention the fact Logan even if he had blood in his eyes could fight as if he was fine, which would mean it unlikly any type of stopagae would occure
The blood would stop if Luke didn't hit him again.

I'm assuming Luke will be able to hit him, not too much of an assumption, I don't see where I said he will be landing lots of hits, he doesn't need to to make him bleed.

If Logan suddenly lost his vision or it was impaired he would take a good amount of hits before he would be able to counter, unless you have scans of him suddenly able to rely on his other senses while losing his vision in the middle of a fight, idk. This would appear to the ref as the blood impairing his performance.


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It's not, it's only stopped as mentioned if it impairs the fighters ability to fight or is dangerous for him/her to continue. Blood in the eyes is most definetly NOT an instant fight stoppage


I said almost immediately or within the next couple hits, which from my experience is true.

The refs don't take long to see if the fighter is able to continue.

How long have you seen a fight go on like that?


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This would appear to the ref as the blood impairing his performance.


Not exactally true, as most MMA refs always give the fighter a chance to recover and don't instantly stop fights as for one that would upset the crowd and when it comes to it they want to make the fights entertaining. If it was really bad, they would ask the doctor if he could continue. It's the doctors call usually if the blood or cut is impairing the fighter. The refree halts the action and calls the doctor to check on the blood or cut, but and by the time Wolverine would be seen he would be fully recovered with no cuts so a doctor stoppage is very unlikely.

A refree stoppage would be a fighter as from the rules "can't intelligently defend himself" so that's when the refree steps in and halts the fight.


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I said almost immediately or within the next couple hits, which from my experience is true.

The refs don't take long to see if the fighter is able to continue.

How long have you seen a fight go on like that?


That's not true though, the doctor makes the call not the referee.

Not true again, look at Big John McCarthy who is considered the best MMA referee in the game. He gives fighters ample time to recover, and stops fights as I mentioned above when the fighter cannot intelligently defend himself.

Bad cut in the first round, and the fight continued and went to a decision. Seen that many times. Hell look at the Edwin Dewees and Gideon Ray fight. Edwin had one of the worst cuts I have seen and the blood came out like a fountain and they were rolling on the mat and the blood was getting into both fighters eyes but the fight wasn't called.


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yeah, the dewees fight was a blood bath, he walked in the fight a platinum blonde and walked out a copper top. all from a couple elbows to the brow.


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