its a PROPHESY. its a telling of the future. it wont protect the witch king because its a plot device. thats like saying AotC Anakin cant be defeated because the prophecy says that hell bring balance to the force meaning he cant die until he does so. plot devices dont come into play in vs. threads. stop bringing that shit up.
Maybe he had it removed, maybe Dumbledore bite it off back in the day, maybe it was removed due to the PG-13 status of the film. Dude is still a man.
Capt'N O Despair doesn't need to bring in the protective prophecy here, he just throws his sword and/or flail at Voldermort and either impales him or crushes his bald head.
How is Voldermort going to kill an undead being to begin with?
with magic? a sword to the face was able to kill him. fire was able to make him run away. run far enough away that he didnt bother them again for like two days. that would count as a win as far as vs. fights are concerned.
And I'm asking which spells does Voldermort have at his disposal that would kill a dead guy, more to the point, kill that dead guy before he had his head crushed.
Sword had to be magical(as in the book), otherwise we'd have to assume the protection prophecy is in play.
ive never seen a harry potter movie lol. but i do know that the witch-king never actually fights gandalf in the theatrical release of the movie. that scene is a deleted scene meaning its not canon to the movies and thus not canon here. so what wand breaking/crushing skills does the WK have?
also death is not the only way to win a vs. thread. incapacitation is the only requirement for victory. that means BFR knock-out and the opponent retreating are all viable ways to win. i dont know if he has this spell in the movie but in the book voldemort could set people on fire. if he has that spell then this is a cake walk because as weve seen the WK is vulnerable to fire.
the prophecy doesnt have to do with anything because its a prophecy. it doesnt hold any relevance to anything even within the books it didnt mean anything.and in the movie the sword was never stated to be magical or shown to have any magical properties so it in affect... wasnt.
i dunno about those weapons. they move slow as ****. eowyn dodged them pretty easily for the most part and she didnt use any fancy footwork.
also voldemort can apparate and hes a ranged fighter so hes never going to allow himself to get within 30 feet of the WK anyway. the WK has no ranged abilities and has never really shown the ability to sprint or anything so its not like he can tag voldemort anyway.
It's aright, Witchy can use his uber-strength to throw one of his weapons at Voldermort, while he's busy casting some spell that likely won't kill the dead guy to begin with.
what uber strength? if he isnt strong enough to swing his flail with at least decent speed what makes you think he can toss that huge thing with enough speed to hit a man who is possibly 30-50 feet away before the man can teleport away or simply... duck?
The fact he can even wield that massive chunk of whatever-the-hell-it-is should be a good hint he has some pretty impressive strength. Now, replace it with something significantly lighter, maybe a spear or something. Still think that thing is gonna be traveling slowly? I know WK doesn't have a spear, but it's the same concept with his sword, then.
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He swings that humongous thing around with no problem, even rips it out of the ground after he misses and it bites in, so there's that and considering he can hold it out at arms length, he is definitely super-strong; possibility delving into the super-duper-strong range.
Like I said, or the sword will do, even if he hits Voldermort with the non-business end of his blade, it's taking the wizard out.
No, he'd wait until Voldermort was casting a spell and throw it then, relying that the spell won't kill him (as the death spell wouldn't, there's probably others too), but his hit will kill Voldermort, which Vldermort won't be able to duck or cast a teleport in time, since he committed to the first spell to begin with. It's all in the timing.
Actually, if anything, a sword would be more difficult to avoid because of the arced trajectory and spin, there's no telling which side Voldemort would get facing him.
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how is that super duper strength? he swings it slowly and its on a freakin chain meaning sheer momentum ad inertia are doing most of the work. if he moved it quickly id agree with you but he doesnt he moves it slowly as if it were a large cumbersome weapon. thats not even 1 ton strength.
voldemort cant side step and cast a spell at the same time? considering wizards were shown to be able to cast spells while dodging other spells it stands to reason that he can dodge a sword or flail moving at 5 miles an hour.
and youre ignoring one of my statements. the WK has shown an extreme vulernability to fire in the movies. so one fire attack or water or anything of that sort and its over. hes not invincible the movies never portray that.
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And we're under the assumption that WK is smart enough to catch Voldy mid-spell. Out comes the sword, and Voldy's gotta make his concentration check otherwise he not only loses the spell, but gets gutted.
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The fact he can even wield that massive chunk of whatever-the-hell-it-is should be a good hint he has some pretty impressive strength. Now, replace it with something significantly lighter, maybe a spear or something. Still think that thing is gonna be traveling slowly? I know WK doesn't have a spear, but it's the same concept with his sword, then.
