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Queerer than we can suppose: the strangeness of science.
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King Kandy
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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Deism's awesome.

Only if the members are smart enough.


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But I did not say anything was a waist. I said...

"It is as much of a waist of time being an atheist as it is being a theist." That means any waist on one side is equal to the waist on the other side.


IT'S WASTE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. WASTE! WAIST IS THE PART BETWEEN RIB CAGE AND HIPS. AHHHHHH


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Originally posted by Ordo
Quoting Dawkins to represent Atheism is like quoting Falwell to represent Christianity....its invalid.

And yes, there is a limit on science. Its limits are the observable.


Falwell didnt have the facts backing him up.


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You are so silly. laughing You have no idea what I was saying.


Well no wonder. Heres why, below

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But I did not say anything was a waist. I said...

"It is as much of a waist of time being an atheist as it is being a theist." That means any waist on one side is equal to the waist on the other side.


Well if you'd SAID "waste" rather than "waist" we'd all get the context. I thought you were making a Buddah's waistline joke, in all honesty.


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IT'S WASTE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. WASTE! WAIST IS THE PART BETWEEN RIB CAGE AND HIPS. AHHHHHH
I wanna see you on Comedy Central. I bet you'd have great stage presence.


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Well.... he was influenced by Hitler.... a man who's stage prescence could not be knocked.


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Well if you'd SAID "waste" rather than "waist" we'd all get the context. I thought you were making a Buddah's waistline joke, in all honesty.


Sorry, but I am not a good speller. I was wondering why people were not getting it; now I know.


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Sorry, but I am not a good speller. I was wondering why people were not getting it; now I know.
I ttolaly daisgere, you are a garet slpelr stick out tongue


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Sorry, but I am not a good speller. I was wondering why people were not getting it; now I know.
The problem is not your spelling, but your vague statements that you then elaborate to mean something totally else.


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Falwell didnt have the facts backing him up.


Neither does Dawkins. He always takes things one step beyond fact and damages the reputations of both science and atheism in the process. Just because he uses facts at some point in his argument does not mean his conclusions are, in fact, based on those facts.

As a scientist and an atheist he often offends me with his statments, just as most Christians I know are offended by firebrands like Falwell.


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Neither does Dawkins. He always takes things one step beyond fact and damages the reputations of both science and atheism in the process. Just because he uses facts at some point in his argument does not mean his conclusions are, in fact, based on those facts.

As a scientist and an atheist he often offends me with his statments, just as most Christians I know are offended by firebrands like Falwell.
Like what statements?


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Like what statements?


To say the least, those with regard to the mental health of religious people


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To say the least, those with regard to the mental health of religious people


What does he say about it?


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What does he say about it?


http://www.amazon.com/God-Delusion-...s/dp/0618680004


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Neither does Dawkins. He always takes things one step beyond fact and damages the reputations of both science and atheism in the process. Just because he uses facts at some point in his argument does not mean his conclusions are, in fact, based on those facts.

As a scientist and an atheist he often offends me with his statments, just as most Christians I know are offended by firebrands like Falwell.


As a professor of evolutionary sceince, basing alot of his rebuttals for religious explainations on his Darwinian and other sciences, Id say he fits the very definiotion of a man who knows what he is talking about.

But I better understand your comparison in that respect.

Hitchens is probably more your kind of guy then.

But in an age where Religion has so much power in politics and worldpower, it really should be able to stand up to Dawkins level scrutiny, I feel....and it doesnt.


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Just that he compares believe in God to a Delusion or something else?


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I feel Dawkins has had his day...seriously he is barely around any more, it's like Militant Atheism died overnight...I guess now the republicans are out of office there is less of an appetite for it. Perhaps?


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I feel Dawkins has had his day...seriously he is barely around any more, it's like Militant Atheism died overnight...I guess now the republicans are out of office there is less of an appetite for it. Perhaps?


Well, it's natural to see more media coverage around the release of his book, which has now been out for a while. But taking that and making a broad generalization like this, with no evidence, is flatly wrong. Besides, religious beliefs aren't fashion fads...Dawkins may be in the spotlight less in this country nowadays, but the percentages of atheists, militant or otherwise, will be roughly the same regardless.


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