Limit on Science?
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King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Deism's awesome.
Only if the members are smart enough.
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Jul 8th, 2009 05:00 AM
Lord Lucien
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"Long ago we realized isms are great for those who are rational, but in the hands of irrational people, isms always lead to violence."---South Park.
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Jul 8th, 2009 05:44 AM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But I did not say anything was a waist. I said...
"It is as much of a waist of time being an atheist as it is being a theist." That means any waist on one side is equal to the waist on the other side.
IT'S WASTE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. WASTE! WAIST IS THE PART BETWEEN RIB CAGE AND HIPS. AHHHHHH
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Jul 8th, 2009 10:12 AM
Sadako of Girth
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ordo
Quoting Dawkins to represent Atheism is like quoting Falwell to represent Christianity....its invalid.
And yes, there is a limit on science. Its limits are the observable.
Falwell didnt have the facts backing him up.
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Jul 8th, 2009 11:34 AM
Sadako of Girth
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are so silly. You have no idea what I was saying.
Well no wonder. Heres why, below
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Jul 8th, 2009 11:36 AM
Sadako of Girth
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But I did not say anything was a waist. I said...
"It is as much of a waist of time being an atheist as it is being a theist." That means any waist on one side is equal to the waist on the other side.
Well if you'd SAID "waste" rather than "waist" we'd all get the context. I thought you were making a Buddah's waistline joke, in all honesty.
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Jul 8th, 2009 11:38 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
IT'S WASTE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. WASTE! WAIST IS THE PART BETWEEN RIB CAGE AND HIPS. AHHHHHH
I wanna see you on Comedy Central. I bet you'd have great stage presence.
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Jul 8th, 2009 01:14 PM
Sadako of Girth
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Well.... he was influenced by Hitler .... a man who's stage prescence could not be knocked.
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Jul 8th, 2009 01:19 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well if you'd SAID "waste" rather than "waist" we'd all get the context. I thought you were making a Buddah's waistline joke, in all honesty.
Sorry, but I am not a good speller. I was wondering why people were not getting it; now I know.
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Jul 8th, 2009 01:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry, but I am not a good speller. I was wondering why people were not getting it; now I know.
I ttolaly daisgere, you are a garet slpelr
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Jul 8th, 2009 02:03 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry, but I am not a good speller. I was wondering why people were not getting it; now I know.
The problem is not your spelling, but your vague statements that you then elaborate to mean something totally else.
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Jul 8th, 2009 02:14 PM
Ordo
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Falwell didnt have the facts backing him up.
Neither does Dawkins. He always takes things one step beyond fact and damages the reputations of both science and atheism in the process. Just because he uses facts at some point in his argument does not mean his conclusions are, in fact, based on those facts.
As a scientist and an atheist he often offends me with his statments, just as most Christians I know are offended by firebrands like Falwell.
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Jul 8th, 2009 04:21 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ordo
Neither does Dawkins. He always takes things one step beyond fact and damages the reputations of both science and atheism in the process. Just because he uses facts at some point in his argument does not mean his conclusions are, in fact, based on those facts.
As a scientist and an atheist he often offends me with his statments, just as most Christians I know are offended by firebrands like Falwell.
Like what statements?
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Jul 8th, 2009 06:07 PM
tsilamini
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Like what statements?
To say the least, those with regard to the mental health of religious people
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Jul 8th, 2009 06:21 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by inimalist
To say the least, those with regard to the mental health of religious people
What does he say about it?
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Jul 8th, 2009 06:25 PM
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Jul 8th, 2009 07:29 PM
Sadako of Girth
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ordo
Neither does Dawkins. He always takes things one step beyond fact and damages the reputations of both science and atheism in the process. Just because he uses facts at some point in his argument does not mean his conclusions are, in fact, based on those facts.
As a scientist and an atheist he often offends me with his statments, just as most Christians I know are offended by firebrands like Falwell.
As a professor of evolutionary sceince, basing alot of his rebuttals for religious explainations on his Darwinian and other sciences, Id say he fits the very definiotion of a man who knows what he is talking about.
But I better understand your comparison in that respect.
Hitchens is probably more your kind of guy then.
But in an age where Religion has so much power in politics and worldpower, it really should be able to stand up to Dawkins level scrutiny, I feel....and it doesnt.
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Jul 8th, 2009 07:47 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Just that he compares believe in God to a Delusion or something else?
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Jul 8th, 2009 07:58 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
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I feel Dawkins has had his day...seriously he is barely around any more, it's like Militant Atheism died overnight...I guess now the republicans are out of office there is less of an appetite for it. Perhaps?
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Jul 8th, 2009 08:02 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I feel Dawkins has had his day...seriously he is barely around any more, it's like Militant Atheism died overnight...I guess now the republicans are out of office there is less of an appetite for it. Perhaps?
Well, it's natural to see more media coverage around the release of his book, which has now been out for a while. But taking that and making a broad generalization like this, with no evidence, is flatly wrong. Besides, religious beliefs aren't fashion fads...Dawkins may be in the spotlight less in this country nowadays, but the percentages of atheists, militant or otherwise, will be roughly the same regardless.
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Jul 8th, 2009 08:11 PM
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