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OK we need numbers. Lets say it is the full might of the ST universe. What should SW be allowed?


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I have never watched a Star Trek film in my life. But I will say this: ST sucks. SW FTW!


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I have never watched a Star Trek film in my life. But I will say this: ST sucks. SW FTW!



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I liked the newest film of ST - need to watch the originals.

it appears like the ST tech > SW tech. But it seems that SW Jedi/Sith > Mostly everyone in St...

right?


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OK lets say the ST universe decides to invade the SW universe......can they do it?


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Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I liked the newest film of ST - need to watch the originals.

it appears like the ST tech > SW tech. But it seems that SW Jedi/Sith > Mostly everyone in St...

right?



No.


There's several "omnipotent" species in Star Trek. Like....a dozen.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK we need numbers. Lets say it is the full might of the ST universe. What should SW be allowed?
If I did a SW vs ST thread it would be something like Picard's USS Enterprise E vs a standard Star Destroyer with Vader onboard.

If you used the full might of the ST universe then SW wouldn't have a prayer. One word: Q. erm

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I have never watched a Star Trek film in my life. But I will say this: ST sucks. SW FTW!
Like I said I'm a fan of both. I grew up watching the Star Wars films, OT and PT. But as of now I've gotten into Star Trek. I don't like the Original Series, but The Next Generation and Deep Space 9 are great. I suggest you try it out.

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But it seems that SW Jedi/Sith > Mostly everyone in St...right?

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OK lets say the ST universe decides to invade the SW universe......can they do it?


Again. One word: Q.

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A decent match would be the Federation, Klingon Empire, Romulan Empire and Cardassian Union Vs The Empire.

Disallowing onmipotents like Q is needed, for obvious reasons as is not wearing the EU pants in regards to Vader, Luke and the Emperor.


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No Rebels? No X Wings? jedi?


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The Empire in it's entirety probably has a lot more ships and men than the ST I posted as is.

But sure, your thread.


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If we go by what's in the movies (as the rules state we are supposed to) then V'ger would probably be capable of completely laying waste to everything that the star wars films could throw at it. It is a sentient cloud of energy that is 82 times bigger than the distance between the earth and the sun.

I'd also say that the Reman Scimitar would probably lay waste to huge swathes of star destroyers and super star destroyers before they even knew where it was.


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The Empire in it's entirety probably has a lot more ships and men than the ST I posted as is.

But sure, your thread.
My thread. yes, but its up to guys like you, Jaden and DDM to set the conditions.


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It isn't that easy, as ST tech is shown to be far more advanced, so while the SW has super-massive ships and millions of troopers, a much smaller SW ship is capable of destroying a planet, or more specifically, all life on a planet.

So it's a matter of large numbers vs far more versatile tech.

Edit: In the films, the SW ships are usually just seen flying about space and blasting, while ST ships/crews constantly show adaptiveness and resourcefulness, it's a basic plot of the series.


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If everything was being taken into account from both universes then ST would have superior numbers...in 1 episode of voyager they approach the borg central nexus and it alone had "trillions of drones"...This was only 1 small part of the borg collective. There are billions of borg ships of varying sizes and strengths...

I also mentioned on the ST v SW thread in the ST section that in the thrawn trilogy...the Katana fleet was said to have been able to swing the balance of power in the galaxy at that time and it was only supposed to have been 500 or so clone wars era dreadnaughts.


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Wouldn't be sensible if we go with "everything in the movies", as ST clearly has too many advantages then. It's why I mentioned those four ST groups to even things out.

I was under the impression the Empire held thousands of worlds and had millions of Troopers.

Personnally, I still think ST's better tech wins in he end, as the war will be decided in space, not on the ground.


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Wouldn't be sensible if we go with "everything in the movies", as ST clearly has too many advantages then. It's why I mentioned those four ST groups to even things out.



It has too many advantages with either movies or everything else. I suppose it comes with the territory of just having far more material to draw upon.

12 movies, 79 episodes of the original series, 178 next generation episodes, 176 deep space 9 episodes, 172 voyager episodes and 98 enterprise episodes...plus all the books.


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Don't mind using the shows becuase they are easily compared to movies but we should probably leave books and comics out.

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Its a shame that I am torn between these two.. I am a die hard trekkie and I also love Star Wars just as much..


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It has too many advantages with either movies or everything else. I suppose it comes with the territory of just having far more material to draw upon.

12 movies, 79 episodes of the original series, 178 next generation episodes, 176 deep space 9 episodes, 172 voyager episodes and 98 enterprise episodes...plus all the books.



not just those.. remember every ship in the Trek Universe can cdertainly be fitted to use cloaking devices or the Enterprise herself can employ Saucer sep and both the Battle bridge and saucer section could be more than any SW vessel can handle


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Only Defiant-class ships have the cloaking devices if were talking Federation, not Enterprise. Klingons use them aswell.

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