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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Tomba is not a cave man, he's a Jungle boy. Get it right.

Tomba was not frozen because the Evil Pig chose not to freeze him. He said it himself: "There, I've stopped time for the entire world except for you and me. Nothing moves, Nobody talks. Even color is gone! (mature world BT)"

The entire adventure of Tomba stopping the Evil Pigs is nothing but a game to the last Evil Pig.

The only reason he was defeated was because he let himself be fought as a part of his game.


I would like to hear him say this although this could be one of those falliable character statements....


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I quoted it word for word. You hearing the audio isn't going to change the wording.


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For all I know your telling be lies or leaving something important out....there could be information during the game that shows some limit to the time pig, or a limit to whom he can freeze or what he can do. Thing is, theres no evidence that says he can freeze a planet solid in time so...so far we have no real feat that he can actually freeze anything much at all...for all you know he could be bluffing, couldnt freeze Tomba and did not have enough power yet had to cover it up to make himself seem impressive. I need to know more information than a spoken quote from the pig.

Either way, lets assume he can do it, theres probably no set duration known for the time period he can freeze for..."if" he can and furthermore, I still have no seen this apprent "thought" freeze yet...he may do a gesture or speak something for all I know.


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Fine, I'll find a video. Crybaby.



Happens at 1.21

The only way the spell was broken was when Tomba defeated him.


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By shoving him into a sack....lol


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By shoving him into a sack....lol


Well, yeah. Nothing else has ever hurt him, and I'm pretty sure it's even been stated as the ONLY way to defeat them.

If you could take any kind of damage forever in exchange for being able to be defeated by being thrown into one specific bag that you could even hold on to, wouldn't you do it? I sure would.


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yes but thats a no limits fallacy so its not a feat, feats are based on what a being has endured, if the pig has not endured someone as powerful as Kain attacking him with a punch then he would die from it depending on variables, which by the looks of the game, do not exist.


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Only Kain will be frozen in time. That's the problem with your shit logic. You assume Kain will not be.

The entire planet is frozen, because you can actually go ANYWHERE in the planet, and it will be frozen in time. He freezes time before you fight him.


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I would like to see that.


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I did post a video...


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"to everyone sleeping deeply on this continent"

Thought id find the little hick....I always find hicks in so called evidence lol....


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Okay.

He froze a continent.

He will still freeze Kain.

The sleeping deeply is not evidence though, considering we see they are not sleeping, but frozen.


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We? ive not seen anything frozen in time at all, he says he will freeze everyone sleeping deeply, which implies he could not actually freeze in time a being actually awake....game over....


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You know what's funny? There's an old man called Kainen right out the door to that room. He's frozen in place, his eyes are wide open. And he was actually speaking to you right before you went to meet the last evil pig.

And in order to get to the last evil pig and fight him, you have to go outside of the tunnels you are in when you see Kainen, and pass numerous other people who are also not sleeping.

Game over.


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We? ive not seen anything frozen in time at all, he says he will freeze everyone sleeping deeply, which implies he could not actually freeze in time a being actually awake....game over....
Yet you see people who are awake and not sleeping.

I am not going to look up videos that are likely very sparse for a very old game just because you're butthurt Kain loses.


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There should be a part 2 to the one I posted where he might go around finding all the plates and passing people. He'll at least pass Kainen for sure.

It might actually be in the same video...

Edit: Yeah. He passes Kainen at 4.00


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You know what's funny? There's an old man called Kainen right out the door to that room. He's frozen in place, his eyes are wide open. And he was actually speaking to you right before you went to meet the last evil pig.

And in order to get to the last evil pig and fight him, you have to go outside of the tunnels you are in when you see Kainen, and pass numerous other people who are also not sleeping.

Game over.


Show me, and the pig said quite clearly that only beings in a deep sleep, which explains why he and the jungle boy are still awake, he never said directly he would spare the jungle boy from time stop so there you are. This old man being frozen has no barring on anything, certaintly not until you show me the old man frozen, its also just a gameplay mess up. The pig says what its going to do..


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Show me, and the pig said quite clearly that only beings in a deep sleep, which explains why he and the jungle boy are still awake, he never said directly he would spare the jungle boy from time stop so there you are. This old man being frozen has no barring on anything, certaintly not until you show me the old man frozen, its also just a gameplay mess up. The pig says what its going to do..


The dirty swine quite clearly announces that he's going to cast "TIME... STOP!!!".


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Indeed he does, on all those sleeping deeply smile


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Except if you look at the vid, at 4.00 you can see someone frozen and clearly not sleeping deeply.


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