I think it would, yes. Imo, people underestimate how impossibly hard it would be to even touch MNer because he can choose the optimal approach to each and every situation due to his calculative abilities. The only stuff that hits him is either something with enough spread that he can't dodge, a sneak attack, or someone so fast that he can't react in time.
But with adamantium, healing + durability means that putting Creed down permanently would be just as hard for MNer. Without the adamantium, his healing factor might prevent outright death but wouldn't prevent MNer from tearing him a new one and probably KOing him eventually.
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I kinda new what it was, the reason I was asking was some consider guys like Spiderman to be "street" so I wasn't sure if he meant that, in those words MN'er is above.
Carver if MN'er has no way of putting him down, then how does he lose 2?
Most streeters like DD and Bats wouldn't be able to contend with Classic Creed either.
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You honestly think he could punch holes through Sabretooth if Sabretooth didn't have Adamantium?
SABRETOOTH?!
The same guy that laughs off shots from Rogue, and shruggs off shots from Ms. Marvel and Killpower?
YyyyyNO.
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Now jinzin, we don't have to have a drawn out discussion, because I'm definitely not saying Sabes can win, but do you think Midnighter can hurt him at all, or has ANY possibility of knocking him out (saying if he was just laying there) for example.
No one said MNer can't hurt him. He just isn't doing so for long, or ftw.
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Midnighter is absolutley capable of puching a hole through flesh and bone mate, even dense bone like Sabretooths. How hard do you think sabretooths chest is without adamantium? i mean we have seen Hulk hit Steve rogers, and we know that should lead to a splash of organs / blood / splintered bones, but it doesn't, im talking a specilist blow, fingers out stretched on the hand. A MA blow through the solo plexes, not a straite left to the jaw.
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No he not. He capable of doing it to a normal human. Sabre-tooth body is many many many many times denser then a normal human. He has vastly denser bone and muscles so dense that a meta human could not achieve a pressure point due to the density.
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On another note, Classic Sabes had problems with a few street levelers. But his body should be more dense due to his level of strength for one, like Spiderman's. I don't believe he can simply "punch" a hole in his chest, but stabbing is a whole nother ordeal.
Again we're talking about Ms. Marvel.. a 60 ton lifter who has powers in speed capable of catching machine gun fire, and negotiating QS speeds, with training from every from the military and the Avengers, to Wolverine.
Yet she (with a smaller fist; more condensed surface area) took a ton a punches just to knock Sabretooth down, nevermind punching holes in him.
His tendons have been described as strong as steel cables.
He's taken a grenade launcher to the chest with ass all result.
Taken multiple optic blasts at close range.
Took a condensed optic blast to the noggin and was still kickin'.
He took every bit of the X-mansions power condensed into Bishops blasts, with no damage.
Hell, even his weakest incarnation was too durable for Archangel to cut in half at point blank range.
The notion that Midnighter could just stroll in and tear Creed limb from limb is utterly ridiculous. Likewise, Sabretooth has better feats of ripping prople apart limb from limb. He does it quite often, so I fail to see where MNer is coming out the better here.
Fact is he wouldn't and couldn't rip Creed limb from limb with or without the Adamantium.
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"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
i mean we have seen Hulk hit Steve rogers, and we know that should lead to a splash of organs / blood / splintered bones, but it doesn't, im talking a specilist blow, fingers out stretched on the hand. A MA blow through the solo plexes, not a straite left to the jaw.
