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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanos vs Final Crisis

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Why not? Warlock's story is outside of DC universe. His story is just as compelling as Superman's. Without going back to Marvel or access to other fictions, the answer is pretty obvious. Thanos' story isn't unique; you might as well ask if Darkseid, Wonder Woman, Batman, Peter Parker, or Captain America they can beat Mandrakk. They can't because they can't put on that armor. But given that Thanos is an intellect and has prep, this is how he would achieve this goal.

NO! Absolutely not. Superman's is the sole reason why Mandrakk was defeated. Nobody else but Superman can beat Mandrakk. Superman's story was powering the Cosmic Armor. Going by what DC wanted, NO other story can beat Superman's story.

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Where was this stated in FC? The Monitors pointed out that the story of a child from a dying planet was sent to Earth and become it's greatest protector. This story of Superman is why his story was greater than Mandrakk's.

Correct, and only Superman, no other exceptions. This includes Kara, CM, or anyone else. That's just how it is.

Then you also got Darkseid to worry about.

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Even in a multiverse full of Supermen, only one could accomplish that.

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Yup, even though they had similar stories.

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Is Final Crisis Good? (I know, wrong thread)

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Apollo should have been in that armor. big grin

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Is Final Crisis Good? (I know, wrong thread)

You'll get a lot of opinions from different angles, as you will with a lot of Morrison's work.

Yes, it's good.

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Is Final Crisis Good? (I know, wrong thread)

It's okay. I liked FC: Revelation and Superman Beyond more as they are stand alone tie-ins.

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It was good. Up until the last issue. Last issues always ruin it for me in big events. It should have been longer.

Nov 16th, 2009 05:33 AM

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It was good. Up until the last issue. Last issues always ruin it for me in big events. It should have been longer.

Except for COIE which was amazing till the end.
I agree that Superman Beyond was much better than the rest of the series. Although I did like the tie in with Martian Manhunters death. It turned one of the lamest deaths in comic history to one of the greatest deaths, God it was badass to see J'onn mindrape all those villains even with hundreds of tranqs in him.

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Re: Re: Re: Thanos vs Final Crisis

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Adam Warlock isn't an important concept. Superman was the first superhero. Without him there probably wouldn't be an Adam Warlock.

YEs without superman there would never be any superheroes ever... and no you didn't say that, you didn't have to.

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Uhm.. ru f'ing nuts... Thanos has a week to prep??? Of course he can win, this is THANOS! He's a "scemer"... yes, he can do the unthinkable, even the infinite. For example:

Thanos murders a green lantern and steals a power ring, uses it to access the Main power battery in OA... kills every green lantern and triggers an explosion that opens up time and space, where he accesses the home of the monitors. He kills a monitor and eats the body, which gives him the power of a monitor. He kills all the monitors and eats their bodies. Combined with every monitor's power, he murders Mandrakk and then comes to earth. He destroys the entire DC universe, to please mistress Death from Marvel...

Hey... if Starlin was writing it, why can't it happen like this???

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanos vs Final Crisis

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NO! Absolutely not. Superman's is the sole reason why Mandrakk was defeated. Nobody else but Superman can beat Mandrakk. Superman's story was powering the Cosmic Armor. Going by what DC wanted, NO other story can beat Superman's story.

Because Mandrakk was beaten by the Cosmic Armor we cannot suppose he can only be beaten that way in the light of other plot devices (IG, HOTU etc.). Right?

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Because Mandrakk was beaten by the Cosmic Armor we cannot suppose he can only be beaten that way in the light of other plot devices (IG, HOTU etc.). Right?

HOTU, yes, not IG.
Mandrakk represent the evil part of the story that only be defeated by Superman's story which will amplify the cosmic armor which is suppose to defeated the biggest, strongest threat to DCU.

You figure it out. If you don't like how DC laid it out for you, then call them and discuss it.

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Thanos wins because he thinks of something ingenuious. Your close minded if you think some stupid lame "cosmic" armor is the only weapon that would work. I bet Darkseid could have defeated him.

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Thanos wins because he thinks of something ingenuious. Your close minded if you think some stupid lame "cosmic" armor is the only weapon that would work. I bet Darkseid could have defeated him.

Read Final Crisis first. You obviously don't know anything.

A very weak version of Mandrakk was able to defeat God's right hand and Radiant.

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Even in a multiverse full of Supermen, only one could accomplish that.

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A multiverse full of Supermen?

Wasn't there only 51 other?

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A multiverse full of Supermen?

Wasn't there only 51 other?

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... I don't mean Darkseid could physically beat him, I mean Darkseid could scheme over him. Don't you read anything? You don't have to be stronger to beat someone in comics you know... a master "schemer" can find a loop hole and expose it and smash an ultimate being. like Thanos, Adam Warlock, or Darkseid (who has been written so poorly, can hardly be considered a grand villian anymore IMO)

Nov 16th, 2009 05:21 PM