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that is whats odd to me, they made this big deal about it cuttign through everything. And being able to cut wolverines head off. But Daken was told he cant just go cut everything or his claws will break.


Yeah... odd indeed.

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I thought Wolverine cutted an adamantium enhanced Sabes head of with it.


No. Sabes lost his adamantium after M-Day, apparently. I can post some scans to back this up if you want.


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Yeah... odd indeed.



No. Sabes lost his adamantium after M-Day, apparently. I can post some scans to back this up if you want.


What do the adamantium sheaths prove? Real swords usually have wooden sheaths wich can be cut by them, the blades don't damage the sheaths when the sword is drawn or collected because of the direction of its movement, which is paralell to the sheaths.

Aren't the sheaths in daken's arms there for the single purpose of avoiding the 'poisonous' effect of the blade's HF cancelling properties?

I'd like to see the scans of sabertooth without adamantium please. How did he loose it?

Where was it said that daken's claws could be broken by material objects?

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What do the adamantium sheaths prove? Real swords usually have wooden sheaths wich can be cut by them, the blades don't damage the sheaths when the sword is drawn or collected because of the direction of its movement, which is paralell to the sheaths.

Aren't the sheaths in daken's arms there for the single purpose of avoiding the 'poisonous' effect of the blade's HF cancelling properties?

I'd like to see the scans of sabertooth without adamantium please. How did he loose it?

Where was it said that daken's claws could be broken by material objects?
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What do the adamantium sheaths prove? Real swords usually have wooden sheaths wich can be cut by them, the blades don't damage the sheaths when the sword is drawn or collected because of the direction of its movement, which is paralell to the sheaths.

Aren't the sheaths in daken's arms there for the single purpose of avoiding the 'poisonous' effect of the blade's HF cancelling properties?


But why did Tinkerer waste true adamantium then? And what about adamantium poisoning, is it just all for fun?

Daken was said to be physiologically the same as his father. That means his claws pop at 130 miles per hour speed. My guess is that magical claws would burst through non-indestructible sheaths.

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I'd like to see the scans of sabertooth without adamantium please. How did he loose it?


It hasn't been revealed.


Broken jaw, neck and shoulder.

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Wolverine cuts his hand off.

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Where was it said that daken's claws could be broken by material objects?


Origins #36. Tinkerer advised him to be careful with them because he doesn't have adamantium skeleton absorbing the impact.


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But why did Tinkerer waste true adamantium then? And what about adamantium poisoning, is it just all for fun?

Daken was said to be physiologically the same as his father. That means his claws pop at 130 miles per hour speed. My guess is that magical claws would burst through non-indestructible sheaths.


my only thought would be that its shapped around it so that it just slices into on a minor level. but then why waste such a hard to get metal if that's all.


But maybe the blade was dimished from it's original strength during the process of molding the energy into a new shape.


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my only thought would be that its shapped around it so that it just slices into on a minor level. but then why waste such a hard to get metal if that's all.


But maybe the blade was dimished from it's original strength during the process of molding the energy into a new shape.


They are not though.

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yes, i did read the OP... i just dont want to imagine Wolvie being sneaked on by a incompetent kid who has routine knowledge of fighting skills and stealth with a vendetta slicing cleanly through him.... sad

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My guess is that most heroes close to or less than Pete's overall power set would die.


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But why did Tinkerer waste true adamantium then? And what about adamantium poisoning, is it just all for fun?

Daken was said to be physiologically the same as his father. That means his claws pop at 130 miles per hour speed. My guess is that magical claws would burst through non-indestructible sheaths.



It hasn't been revealed.


Broken jaw, neck and shoulder.

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Wolverine cuts his hand off.

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Origins #36. Tinkerer advised him to be careful with them because he doesn't have adamantium skeleton absorbing the impact.


That settles it then. So, is the blade equivalent to adamantium or inferior to it? Could adamantium claws break it? Tinkerer could have meant that the claws might be ripped from his arm depending on the impact, but not shattered. Did he say they would break? I didn't pay much atention to that conversation when I red that story.

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I thought Wolverine cutted an adamantium enhanced Sabes head of with it.

I think he cut the cartilage. kinda like when Uhulk ripped wolverine in half. While his bones may be indestructable the cartilage that keeps them together isn't.


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I think he cut the cartilage. kinda like when Uhulk ripped wolverine in half. While his bones may be indestructable the cartilage that keeps them together isn't.


Depending on the angle of the blow that could be done, but not if the blade struck the neck laterally like it did with S, it would hit bone processes that stick out, up and down.

There is something weird about wolverine's skeleton as well, it behaves like it's a whole piece, I don't think his limbs can pulled apart, maybe the same goes for sabertooth.

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That settles it then. So, is the blade equivalent to adamantium or inferior to it? Could adamantium claws break it? Tinkerer could have meant that the claws might be ripped from his arm depending on the impact, but not shattered. Did he say they would break? I didn't pay much atention to that conversation when I red that story.


Depends. Muramasa blade cuts through things with more ease than adamantium and negates the HF. But durability-wise it's inferior apparently. Also, it can't pierce Hisako's mystical armor, but adamantium claws can.

He said something about the shrapnel, so that'd mean they're breakable...

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Depending on the angle of the blow that could be done, but not if the blade struck the neck laterally like it did with S, it would hit bone processes that stick out, up and down.

There is something weird about wolverine's skeleton as well, it behaves like it's a whole piece, I don't think his limbs can pulled apart, maybe the same goes for sabertooth.


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Depends. Muramasa blade cuts through things with more ease than adamantium and negates the HF. But durability-wise it's inferior apparently. Also, it can't pierce Hisako's mystical armor, but adamantium claws can.

He said something about the shrapnel, so that'd mean they're breakable...



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Gotcha, so it's sharper but not as tough. The hisako thing is a product of the magical nature of both the armor and the blade though, her bloodline's collective memories>everything black in logan.

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Gotcha, so it's sharper but not as tough. The hisako thing is a product of the magical nature of both the armor and the blade though, her bloodline's collective memories>everything black in logan.


Actually it's not sharp. It's a plasmic form that splices things on molecular level stick out tongue

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Spider-man may not have the training but he'll get a handle of it pretty fast. I mean he wasn't trained to throw projectiles but when he dressed up as Ricochet he was throwing those discs Cap America style. Even without training with his speed muramasa blade would be a deadly weapon.


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Spider-man may not have the training but he'll get a handle of it pretty fast. I mean he wasn't trained to throw projectiles but when he dressed up as Ricochet he was throwing those discs Cap America style. Even without training with his speed muramasa blade would be a deadly weapon.


To himself also. There is a reason why nearly all sword schools start with wooden weapons. Even experienced swordsmen cut themselves now and then, not to mention Japanese blades have a nasty habit of cutting TROUGH the sheath if not handled properly.

Honestly I see Spidey a few fingers short not long into his mission.

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