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SamZED
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Judging by the size of him he might very well be. But he's still a loser.

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Isn't Gargan class 100 strength?

No. And even if he were, he'd still lose (it's kinda like a super power).

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No. And even if he were, he'd still lose (it's kinda like a super power).

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Judging by the size of him he might very well be. But he's still a loser.

Well he did beat Colossus, Daken, Bullseye, once and in once issue Hercules smashed him around quite a few times and Venom still wouldn't let go of his hand after Venom bit it.

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Well he did beat Colossus, Daken, Bullseye, once and in once issue Hercules smashed him around quite a few times and Venom still wouldn't let go of his hand after Venom bit it.

When did he beat Daken? And Bullseye...I mean take a look what Venom is supposed to be by taking a short look at the Brock version he should shitstomp Bullseye without any effort.

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When did he beat Daken? And Bullseye...I mean take a look what Venom is supposed to be by taking a short look at the Brock version he should shitstomp Bullseye without any effort.

Osborn sent Daken and Bullseye to take down Venom once and they failed. Can't recall the issue though.

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Well he did beat Colossus, Daken, Bullseye, once and in once issue Hercules smashed him around quite a few times and Venom still wouldn't let go of his hand after Venom bit it.

By wrapping his tongue around him? erm

Daken and Bullseye really don't count, that mini was garbage and felt like a what if story. No muramasa claws, Lester using a poodle as a projectile... really shitty writing.

Even with these "wins", he still sucks. What was wrong with Scorpion? Why Marvel had to give him that stupid symbiote?

Namor 1-3. Not sure how he'd fare in the 4th scenario. Depends on the cooperation between Spidey and Brock. And yeah, I agree with OV... Gargan dies anyway.

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When did he beat Daken? And Bullseye...I mean take a look what Venom is supposed to be by taking a short look at the Brock version he should shitstomp Bullseye without any effort.

Dark Reign Sinister Spider-Man #4. Shitty art, shitty writing, don't even bother. A real waste of time.

Outside of his own mini Gargan's performance against them was piss poor and that's the way it should be.

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By wrapping his tongue around him?

Daken and Bullseye really don't count, that mini was garbage and felt like a what if story. No muramasa claws, Lester using a poodle as a projectile... really shitty writing.

Even with these "wins", he still sucks. What was wrong with Scorpion? Why Marvel had to give him that stupid symbiote?

Namor 1-3. Not sure how he'd fare in the 4th scenario. Depends on the cooperation between Spidey and Brock. And yeah, I agree with OV... Gargan dies anyway.

He knocked out Bullseye didn't he? And he grabbed Daken by the face and threw him onto a roof or something. Don't matter if you hate the issue or not it's cannon. Kinda like Venom trashing Colossus is cannon, it sucks but I've got to accept it rather than slide it uder the table.

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He knocked out Bullseye didn't he? And he grabbed Daken by the face and threw him onto a roof or something. Don't matter if you hate the issue or not it's cannon. Kinda like Venom trashing Colossus is cannon, it sucks but I've got to accept it rather than slide it uder the table.

He did.

He got tossed through the window into that building, yeah.

Again, when did he do that? In their first fight Gargan got pretty much owned (with a brick lmfao) and the Utopia fight ended up as a stalemate IIRC...

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Their 2nd fight Venom was going to eat Colossus or some sh!t. I put them up in the respect thread but am too lazy to look.

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Can't rmember any instance where Garhan got a definite win over Colossus

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Their 2nd fight Venom was going to eat Colossus or some sh!t. I put them up in the respect thread but am too lazy to look.

And he did NOT succeed in doing that. Piotr was pushing him back.

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And he did NOT succeed in doing that. Piotr was pushing him back.

Godammit. Really? Maybe I need to go see that again but all I remember is Venom was going to swollow Colossus.

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all I remember is Venom was going to swollow Colossus

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Mar 20th, 2010 03:29 PM

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Godammit. Really? Maybe I need to go see that again but all I remember is Venom was going to swollow Colossus.

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The next time we see Piotr he is perfectly fine...

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Fraction really didn't do his homework here, most fights were chaotic and without a decisive winner.

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Oh yea, the Bullseye/Archangel fight comes to mind now. What a let down that was.

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The next time we see Piotr he is perfectly fine...

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Fraction really didn't do his homework here, most fights were chaotic and without a decisive winner.

I don't understand why Venom can dwarf Colossus in size like that.

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I don't understand why Venom can dwarf Colossus in size like that.

Shit writing, the symbiote was never able to change size in a way like that on the other hand, he lost almost all of his other features: shapeshifting etc.

The only thing that makes me sad is the this is Brocks symbiote and not any other one or a clone

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