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SO Mac has zero chance of knocking Gobby off the glider?


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SO Mac has zero chance of knocking Gobby off the glider?


yes, i don't think he can.. Mac may be a crackshot, but Gobby showed greatness while on the glider, so he should easily avoid bullets from Mac


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Okay. Even IF Mac could hit GG, be it face or body, with a machine gun, you are clearly forgetting that the GG suit is government made armor suit. You really think that the govt would sanction a suit that is susceptible to common MG fire? The suit is govt grade armor, so is the glider.

Pumpkin bomb to Mac. Mac is skeletonized, just like the execs were at the parade in SM 1.

Spite.


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yes, i don't think he can.. Mac may be a crackshot, but Gobby showed greatness while on the glider, so he should easily avoid bullets from Mac
Gobby never displayed bullet dodging feats.

Mac strafes Gobby, knocks him off the glider (or strafes the glider and ****s it up), Gobby falls, Mac runs him over a few times, walks over while Gobby is stunned, removes the helmet, BLAM puts one in his computer.

Possible yes


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Okay. Even IF Mac could hit GG, be it face or body, with a machine gun, you are clearly forgetting that the GG suit is government made armor suit. You really think that the govt would sanction a suit that is susceptible to common MG fire? The suit is govt grade armor, so is the glider.

Pumpkin bomb to Mac. Mac is skeletonized, just like the execs were at the parade in SM 1.

Spite.


Susceptible or not, the impact could knock Gobby off his glider.

You're forgetting this:

McClane had a chopper, two of them, on his ass, both of them spewing automatic gunfire, and he took them both out. One with a fire hydrant, one with his car. Also, remember the scene where he was in the rig with the Jet on his ass?

The jet shot missile at him, much more powerful than a pumpkin bomb, and Mac was able to avoid them in a big ass rig.


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No, no, no, no.

If Spider-Man couldn't do it, then why would a normal human be able to do so?

Again: He is wearing govt sanctioned armor.


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Susceptible or not, the impact could knock Gobby off his glider.

You're forgetting this:

McClane had a chopper, two of them, on his ass, both of them spewing automatic gunfire, and he took them both out. One with a fire hydrant, one with his car. Also, remember the scene where he was in the rig with the Jet on his ass?

The jet shot missile at him, much more powerful than a pumpkin bomb, and Mac was able to avoid them in a big ass rig.


Per your OP:

Mac does not have a fire hydrant or a car. Also, this is a "real life" movie".

Spider-Man is a "sci-fi" flick.

Pumpkin bomb = your avada kedavra.


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No, no, no, no.

If Spider-Man couldn't do it, then why would a normal human be able to do so?

Again: He is wearing govt sanctioned armor.


Spider Man didn't have a gun roll eyes (sarcastic)

Body armor is not totally bullet proof, just bullet resistant, right?


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Spider Man didn't have a gun roll eyes (sarcastic)

Body armor is not totally bullet proof, just bullet resistant, right?


Key word: resistant.

He could "resist" and fly around on his glider, zigging and zagging, and drop pumpkin bombs.

Mac dies.


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Key word: resistant.

He could "resist" and fly around on his glider, zigging and zagging, and drop pumpkin bombs.

Mac dies.


Nonetheless, the impact could very well knock him off..... Mac strafes Gobby, knocks him off the glider (or strafes the glider and ****s it up), Gobby falls, Mac runs him over a few times, walks over while Gobby is stunned, removes the helmet, BLAM puts one in his computer.

Mac will be in motion the entire time, dude. And again, this:

McClane had a chopper, two of them, on his ass, both of them spewing automatic gunfire, and he took them both out. One with a fire hydrant, one with his car. Also, remember the scene where he was in the rig with the Jet on his ass?

I'm not saying this is a sure Mac win, I'm just saying that it's not so one sided for Gobby. Mac specializes in destruction and blowing shit up. He has C4, a machine gun and a pistol with him, and body armor.


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Explain to me how a normal human without super chemical alteration could strafe a highly technological piece of machinery designed for aerial combat in an open field of traffic, per your OP?

The GG on his glider gave Spidey a run for his money. Mac is neither.

How does he evade? How does he dodge?

I thought so.

Again: Mac has neither a fire hydrant nor a car at his disposal.

Pumpkin bomb. Death.


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How does he evade and dodge? The same way he evaded the choppers, the same way he evaded the Jet.

Mac has no car or fire hydrant at his disposal? Um.....He's IN a car.......There are fire hydrants all over the city......yeah......

Mac backs over a fire hydrant, the spray hits the glider, Gobby falls off, Mac backs over him, pins him under the car, gets out, uses the C4 to blow him to bits.

An no, Gobby cannot push the car off of him, he never displayed that level of strength in the movies.

And no, he never got hit by a car and lol'd about it.


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Say what you will.

GG is a super human on a superior govt made machine wearing govt made superior armor while in a state of govt made genetic altering chemicals to advance strength, speed, and durability.

Have fun with your McClane humping. I shan't proceed further.

I feel my argument is done and over.


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Say what you will.

GG is a super human on a superior govt made machine wearing govt made superior armor while in a state of govt made genetic altering chemicals to advance strength, speed, and durability.

Have fun with your McClane humping. I shan't proceed further.

I feel my argument is done and over.
McClane? I, of all people, know McClane has his limits. This fight is well within them, with the right amount of luck.

Bit hostile on your part, sup with that?


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An no, Gobby cannot push the car off of him, he never displayed that level of strength in the movies.


Cars weight between 2 and 4 tons. Goblin supported the weight of a New York City tram, that weighed at least 10 tons with one arm. He also displayed the ability to over power Spider-Man, he was able to casually catch and restrain Parker's punch. This is the Spider-man who can stop trains, carry trams, support falling building etc.

In other words Goblin could throw a car of himself with ease.

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i dont understand why anybody would think that john mcclane could stand up to the green goblin, much less Willem Dafoe standing up to bruce willis


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If Gobby is hit a few times by a speeding car, what then? He lol's, or is stunned?


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If Gobby is hit a few times by a speeding car, what then? He lol's, or is stunned?


He'd recover.

Also, the MP5 is a submachine gun which typically loads 9mm ammunition. That ain't doing shit.

Long Range:

Flight, Missiles, Machine Guns, Pumpkin Bombs, Superhuman stats > MP5 and Car

Short Range:

Do I really need to?


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Go ahead, I lost interest.


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