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actually affecting speed (a form of energy) is different than affecting molecules (matter). so I don't think MM can block speedsteal

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Who said Wonder Woman was the only hero I read? I'm not going cbr because I don't know what that is. I'm going comics. MM knows about Flash. So it's not like he would go into this without knowing flash. a Telepath is a great defense against a speedster. Especially when that Telepath has a high amount of Superspeed himself.


Your posts say more about you than you can imagine.

By going CBR I mean your apparently assuming that John would operate in this battle as if you were controlling him.

Seriously, starting off invisible and intangible followed by dropping a mountain on the battle field? GTFO.

Wally would absolutely eat John for breakfast if he was in that mindset. Screw John's level of super speed. Wally would recite the Mantra and he'd be nothing but a statue. He'd then go on to pulverize him like he did the Anti-Monitor.

In that same issue he was moving so fast he was invisible to Pre-Crisis characters including Superman and was able to amp some of the assembled heroes to the point either Supergirl or Powergirl stated they had never felt like they did at that moment.


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actually affecting speed (a form of energy) is different than affecting molecules (matter). so I don't think MM can block speedsteal
Speed is the direction of molecules in a direction within an alotted time. Speed is not energy itself.

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By going CBR I mean your apparently assuming that John would operate in this battle as if your controlling him.

Seriously, starting off invisible and intangible followed by dropping a mountain on the battle field? GTFO.

Wally would absolutely eat John for breakfast if he was in that mindset. Screw John's level of super speed. Wally would recite the Mantra and he'd be nothing but a statue. He'd then go on to pulverize him like he did to the Anti-Monitor.

In that same issue he was moving so fast he was invisible to Pre-Crisis characters including Superman and was able to amp some of the assembled heroes to the point either Supergirl or Powergirl stated they had never felt like they did at that moment.
So do you think Wally can do the same thing to Surfer, or Thor? Superman? Because MM has a leg up on all of them. He can read wally's mind, put up psy shielding so that Wally run's smack into psy shielding, etc.

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Speed is not energy itself.


speed is kinetic energy

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So do you think Wally can do the same thing to Surfer, or Thor? Superman? Because MM has a leg up on all of them. He can read wally's mind, put up psy shielding so that Wally run's smack into psy shielding, etc.


All out Wally West is pure hax. He has such a broken powerset. He'd defeat either Surfer, Thor or Superman in that mindset.

F*ck telepathy. John won't have time to form a coherent thought. He'd be nothing but a statue frozen in time to the Flash.


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All out Wally West is pure hax. He has such a broken powerset. He'd defeat either Surfer, Thor or Superman in that mindset.

F*ck telepathy. John won't have time to form a coherent thought. He'd be nothing but a statue frozen in time to the Flash.
he still can't fly


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speed is kinetic energy
No. Speed Generates Kinetic Energy. Hence why they have two different Names.

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he still can't fly


Characters can't start a battle mid flight.

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No. Speed Generates Kinetic Energy. Hence why they have two different Names.


no. ask your physicist or something. speed IS kinetic energy

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he still can't fly


He can fly or at least do something similar.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...erThanFlash.jpg

He can also run in frictionless space.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...ashinSpace1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...ashinSpace2.jpg


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no. ask your physicist or something. speed IS kinetic energy
Well you need an object to carry that kind of energy though


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Well you need an object to carry that kind of energy though


not really... even subatomic particles move...the whole universe is on constant motion so speed is everywhere...
in DC in particular there is even a source of speed (the speedforce)

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not really... even subatomic particles move...the whole universe is on constant motion so speed is everywhere...
in DC in particular there is even a source of speed (the speedforce)
Movement does not equal speed. Speed is a relative term based upon movement in a direction and the time it takes to get from point a to b.

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you contradict years of studies but ok...after all this is no school

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Greater DMG output? What's stopping Manhunter from just going intangible and Invisible and Flying out of Wally's reach and firing off ranged attacks? Or throwing a mountain on the battle field?


Wally got IMP..or he can just punch MM at lightspeed a thousand time before MM can react..Wally can go intangible too..he can even hit MM while MM is intangible..if MM is throwing mountain..do u think Wally is just gonna stand there??do u think Wally is dumb??and lets not go to the speedsteal..come on dude..u know Wally at his best is to much for MM..

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