For an excellent scene showing Hulk's regen abilities: see the scene right after Banner's childhood military town is destroyed by a vacuumbomb or a low-yield nuclear weapon. Hulk has a gash on his body as he turns around to view the town and it quickly heals.
However, no healing ever occurs in Leterrier's/Penn's Hulk. I watched the movie carefully and at no point is regen shown...cept when he shrinks down to Banner: looks like the wounds don't carry over as severely.
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I don't remember Leterrier's Hulk ever being pierced in the movie, except by Abomination when he dug his bone spur into Hulk's shoulder. I never really paid attention to the shoulder afterwards..but, are you sure it didn't heal before Abomination started pounding on the Hulk with that concrete mace?
In any case, that was the only point in the movie(IIRC) in which Hulk's regeneration needed to kick in.
What faggotry is this? Ang Lee Hulk doesn't have Regen? Bullshit. Hulk regenerated after the gamma bomb as previously mentioned, and I believe during his fight with the Hulk dogs a dog ripped his shoulder open before getting its jaw snapped, and he regenerated there as well. The madder he got, the stronger he got, and the larger he got. I think at one point he was almost a tall as a gorram building.
What's speed got to do with this? Hulk thunderclaps and every vampire is down because their super sensitive ears can't handle it, then Hulk goes a-stomping. I doubt the vampires' fangs could get through his skin, but even if that is the case, he's got extreme regeneration. It'd probably just keep him burning on the inside, and that'd just piss him off even more. As for Akasha...well, ***** be dead.
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If there was ever a "magical" vamp..... its the twivamps. Seeing as howmagical powers exist in teh twi world. And they literally cant die..... unless Micheal Sheen rips their heads off.
Okay, so maybe I was little overzealous, Speed can be a big problem for bricks.
If they're moving behind him, and maybe the T-clap is invalid thanks to the golden rule, Hulk could still give a good stomp an shake up the ground they're standing on. Or hell, just jump a few miles up and come crashing down.
So far everything that's been shown about vampires except for their powers has followed the more or less scientific bent, and even most of the powers coincide with psionics lore, but I agree, this could be a toss-up. I'd still be willing to put a bit of money on my theory, though. Akasha's bite wouldn't do anything for sure, but it's likely no one's expecting her to get up close and personal.
Refresh my memory, who are Alec and Jane again? Jane's the one that looks at you and you hurt, yeah? What about Alec?
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Ang Lee Hulk definitely had regen and pretty good too! When he took that huge mortar explosion. His wound just mended itself quickly.
Hulk does the Thor trick and smashes the ground sending TwiVamps into the sky. Hulk leaps and grabs two at a time and crushes their bodies.
Akasha ain't burning him to death, the burning would make him madder than ever.....Handclaps and groundstomps would faze Akasha and Hulk will rip her in half.
The Vampire who controls emotions could be a problem.
And, no, there were lots of moments that Hulk's regen would have been quite nice. He's all beaten up after that skirmish with the US military unit at the college campus. (That's just 1 instance.)
Shizer. Forgot about that.
Okay, I change my mind, Hulk loses because he's turned into Banner in no time flat.
Hulk smashes through the twivamps easy.. akasha would have to be flyin pretty high cause hulk can leap for miles and toss crap at her and thunder clap as well...
those hyper senses would be getting screwed with hulk's thunder claps..
the twivamps are the most vulnerable as they would grumble in hulks grasp.
and ang lee hulk was regenerating easy in the movie.
There is no way of knowing whether Jasper could calm Hulk down or not. Also, I'd wager that Hulk may be just as fast as the Twi-Vamps...wasn't it said that Ang Lee Hulk could run across land at 500 mph? I thought that was stated in the movie.
Well, that should have been established by the thread starter in the first few posts. Since it wasn't, we really can't gimp the other side in favor of another. Calming peoples' tempers is a gift of Jasper's. That's what he does. That's his special "gift." To take that away from him would really be a gimp, don't you think?
That'd be like taking away the Hulk's ability to become stronger as he gets angrier. It's a fundamental "gift" of the Hulk's.
I like to keep each side fully powered with all their abilities, without gimping. I don't like saying, arbitrarily, that an ability will work or won't work: they all work unless the other side has a specific immunity to it. i.e. Charles Xavier should be fully immune to all mind attacks, as would Dark Phoenix...cause that was shown on screen. However, it wasn't shown on screen for Hulk.
Do you agree, or disagree? I'm definitely open for discussion. Again, I'm not really set in stone on my perspective, yet.
No, I don't want to gimp anyone. I'm just not sure how effective Jasper would be against the Hulk. In Eclipse, it seemed that Jasper could've calmed the situation to prevent Felix from killing that newborn at the climax of the movie. I've never really seen him use that gift against any member of the Volturi.
The Volturi weren't angry, at all, so there was nothing to calm down. In fact, they were in nice control over themselves. It just so happens that there was a rule and it was absolute: no making newborn vampire armies or you will be destroyed along with all of the newborns you created.
That is a 0 or 1 type thing: it's either on or off. Even if the situation was calmed down, there's the whole problem of the rule being absolute: calm or not calm.
How do you think it would have gone over with the Volturi had they found out Jasper was calming the situation down? (In other words, using his gifts to work against the Volturi.)
I agree that the Volturi were not visibly irate. However, they were frustrated. The fact that that the Volturi even came to America to confront the situation shows some level of frustration. In my opinion, frustration is a cousin of anger. No being of a higher intelligence will attack or kill something without a valid reason...be it anger or frustration...not unless you're a complete sociopath..which I don't believe the Volturi to be.
I understand that the Volturi had a "rule" in place against newborn vampires..and according to their law...they had to intervene. To me, that indicates a lower form of anger because their rules had been broken. With that said, I believe Jasper could've controlled the situation to some degree..if he wanted. Now, the question is...how powerful is Jasper's gift? Is he limited to one person at a time..or can he calm down multiple people at once? In my opinion, if his power was so great..the final battle in Breaking Dawn would never have taken place..he would have stopped it before it even started.
In regards to the Hulk, if Jasper can calm him down...then the Twi-vamps win..obviously. However, tactics like are not known to work against the Hulk. As far as I know, Betty is the only one who can calm the Hulk down..due to the deep love Bruce has for her. In the comics, any time of mind or mood control doesn't seem to stop the Hulk. Now, I don't know if that carried over in the films or not...a situation never occured where a villain attempted to attack the Hulk's mind.
In sum..if Jasper can calm Hulk down...Vamps win...if not..Vamps are screwed...lol. I'm sure that is everyone's opinion concerning the battle.
Um yes, he CAN regen. After getting hit by a mortar shell there was a wound on his shoulder and what happened to the wound?! It *cough* regened *cough*
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