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its a contractual obligation which is why mephisto didnt outright take away the curse off of johnny..

mephisto is a manipulator the story was that mephisto sends others to do his work plus its an innuendo is he is limited in his actions from the one above..

none of this takes away from mephisto nor adds to johnny...

the ghost busters also fought ancient god/demons..

so unless your argument is the GB team wont hurt GR due to cis which is still highly debatable i dont think there is much else to add to it and reaching at straws


I understand that, but the fact still remains that when Johnny said he was coming for Mephisto, he got pissed, and ran home...presumably to plan on how to deal with him come Ghost Rider 2.

Mephisto is a manipulator true, but the truth is....he does most of his dirty work himself. He sent Ghost Rider after Blackheart because Blackheart was more powerful than him...if you think I'm lying, read the comics.

Added to that, he wasn't limited to what he could do to his own son by TOAA, which wasn't even hinted...the closest reference to heaven was the 3 fallen angels, who GR effortlessly defeated by the way.

The GB's did fight and win against Gozer, but the only reason for that, was because they stopped it before it fully entered our reality. If it had fully materialized, it potentially could have been unstoppable.

Vigo wasn't even a god, he was a sorcerer, that's it. And they defeated him with help from New York city.

GR is immune to conventional weapons, and may very well be immune to the proton packs as well, since he is quite literally one of the most powerful entities in heaven or hell.

And like I said, when the match starts out, he has the hellfire chain, the hellfire shotgun, his chopper, and the ability to make fireballs. And I know for a fact that the GB won't use their proton packs on him as a human, it's against all of their PG-13 goodness.

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best chance for the ghost busters would be if eva mendes makes out with sigourney weaver to somehow distract Blaze..

otherwise Blaze beats the crap out of them


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The Ghost Busters deserve to burn in hell. Those filthy criminals. Capturing and imprisoning innocent and sometimes guilty spirits. IN A SINGLE CONFINEMENT!

GR serves justice and restores order.


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I understand that, but the fact still remains that when Johnny said he was coming for Mephisto, he got pissed, and ran home...presumably to plan on how to deal with him come Ghost Rider 2.

Mephisto is a manipulator true, but the truth is....he does most of his dirty work himself. He sent Ghost Rider after Blackheart because Blackheart was more powerful than him...if you think I'm lying, read the comics.

Added to that, he wasn't limited to what he could do to his own son by TOAA, which wasn't even hinted...the closest reference to heaven was the 3 fallen angels, who GR effortlessly defeated by the way.

The GB's did fight and win against Gozer, but the only reason for that, was because they stopped it before it fully entered our reality. If it had fully materialized, it potentially could have been unstoppable.

Vigo wasn't even a god, he was a sorcerer, that's it. And they defeated him with help from New York city.

GR is immune to conventional weapons, and may very well be immune to the proton packs as well, since he is quite literally one of the most powerful entities in heaven or hell.

And like I said, when the match starts out, he has the hellfire chain, the hellfire shotgun, his chopper, and the ability to make fireballs. And I know for a fact that the GB won't use their proton packs on him as a human, it's against all of their PG-13 goodness.
you bn hanging out with marwash havent you?

black heart isnt more powerful then mephisto... he was created by mephisto..his "son".

anyways ghostrider has only recently bn written as a very powerful demon and mephisto is limited in his action in the material world and also depowered from his full potential..

anyways the movie ghostrider has nothing to do with the comic ghostrider and you cant use one to support the other...

also anyone can tell mephisto to F#$# off in comics without being powerful.. in the movie it was made clear that mephisto wanted GR to work for him and wanted to manipulate him to relinquish the curse he was pissed johnny didnt and had a tantrum so what its the devil 101 response in all movies.

anyways the ecto pack kills johnny and captures ghhost rider


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Didn't BH tell him "I don't have your weaknesses?"


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Didn't BH tell him "I don't have your weaknesses?"
i dont recall.. but in what context? bein able to operate in the material world?


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I'm assuming BH was talking about the fact that Mephisto had to get people to willingly relinquish their souls, and Black Heart can just take them.

And yes....Black Heart is more powerful than his father, that's common knowledge in the comics, and was carried over into the movies, which is why Mephisto couldn't do anything to him.

Yeah, Mephistopheles was pissed that Johnny didn't give up the curse, but he was more pissed, and scared that Johnny was coming after him.

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ohh really? is that why in comics blackheart is constantly trying to usurp his father's throne and constantly fails or finds out that mephisto was just playing with him letting him think he died and BH had control of the hell dimension only to show up and prove BH wrong just to relish in the pain of his loss..

blackheart is not more powerful then mephisto never has bn... blackheart in comics is just like his father he becomes less powerful in the material world and can only control those who give in to hate and sin...also blackheart loses magic powers and goes insane with each use of his limted power.. mephisto does not and mephisto gave that weakness to BH to screw with him.

dont be bringing comics here son..

by the way BH has bn beaten regularly by wolverine, punisher, danny ketch and doom... hmm.. not very powerful to me.


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i dont recall.. but in what context? bein able to operate in the material world?
Being able to walk on Hallowed ground, for one.


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GR busts into the sewer underneath the GB's and pulls em down one at a time.

And they're guilty.


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Plus he has a shotgun, that he can shot them with.


Which shoots hellfire.

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Now wait a minute...I can't remember, but wasn't it in the GR comics that it was established that there is a God with Archangels that are more powerful than the demons of darkness, including Mephisto? It's all becoming a blur in my head. no expression


Yeah and those Archangels did'nt last long against Zadkiel.


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GB better be afraid of this ghost. Ghost Rider stomp.


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Hands down GR. The GBs barely hit to Solinzky brothers, and they were flying around a courtroom less than 30 feet away. I can hit a freaking dot the size of a sharp pencil tip from farther with a rifle. It shouldnt have been to hard to hit them, yet they kept missing. GR just steps calmly to the side and kills them.

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