I didn't say Maxima was on par with Thor. I said no one on team one is one shotting her. If you gonna debate me, at least debat what I am saying and not what you want me to say. Orion controlled DS energies and pushed them back on him once. Orion also controlled the energies of a quantum bomb. So I think it is safe to say, he can control high energy. His Mother box has controlled energy as well. Orion has also simply blasted against energies and overwhelmed the users. Never said Orion would pummel BRB. But, Orion does beat BRB. In the same way Orion beat Superman when using all of his powers. Ok, now if you want to stop debating, that is fine. But debat what I'm saying. Not what you think I'm saying.
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I know that Nova Prime is very powerful, but when the Surfer grabbed him up by the neck I questioned his power level. If he were replaced in this thread by Stardust, or Morg at his best, I think that it would be a little more even. As it stands, Infinity Man helps put DC ahead by a comfortable margin.
^Why did you question his powerlevel? Neither of them wanted to fight and they both crash landed on that planet while locking up in an equal power struggle.
Nova has also gotten a lot more powerful since then.
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Beta ray. Bill has busted planets with his strength and has fought in space at faster than light speed, what has orion done to prove that he is faster or stronger than bill?
BRB has busted a planet using energy from his hammer, Storm Breaker. The hammer was glowing when he used it. Orion has matched Superman in physical combat. BRB could not do that.
The thing about the surfer in any thread is that his potential is to be greater than Galactus because if I understood correctly when he raged against LT for showing his homeworld he used power cosmic to generate more power cosmic than what he was using to make more. So in theory his power is infinite and is quite possibly unmatched in the sense that he can spontaneously generate more power at will to an unlimited extent.
He didn't bust two planets with any type of energy... he used physical strength.
What makes you believe that bill can't match superman when he has match thor before and physically took down tanaraq along with other high end beings. If anything, I would give bill the majority against supes.
superman can't lift it. stormbreaker is harder to use (if you're not bill) than mjolnir is since it was made specifically for him to exact revenge with.
First thing I don't think supes would blitz bill... if surfer or stardust couldn't do it, supes isn't doing it... besides speed, everything else falls in bills favor. He is just more powerful.
When skuttlebucket was achieving far greater than light speed and bill stepped outside of skuttlebucket to face surfer while keeping up with the ship and fighting surfer at the same time. The ship was hitting warp speed and both surfer and bill was keeping up with it while fighting at tremendous speeds.