Doesn't work like that. In comics martial arts are a subsititute for powers. A brick can take millions of tons of force but in comics if you're trained well enough you can do it. This has been done time and time again.
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According to common sense. So we're to believe that Steve can oneshot anyone who has below Hulk's durability? Like CM said, Hulk has taken attacks 1000x powerful than Steve's punch and wasn't even hurt that bad, let alone koed. As for THIS forum, Spider-man with his class 10 strength KOing a holding back Firelord with 1000 punches and after dropping a building on his head is an example of PIS on KMC, yet Cap koing Hulk shouldnt count as that? Its PIS and should never be used as an example on vs forum, Cap isnt even oneshotting Daredevil, Punisher or Batman, let alone Hulk.
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Sam you're silly. Spider-Man ko'ing Firelord is PIS because he hasn't taken a karate class. Martial Arts aren't superpowers unless you're like Iron Fist or Akuma and you actually do "super" stuff it. The non-meta's might have some neat feats, but it's not a superpower at all. Common sense and logic applies to all debates. Are we going to say that Cap can out-react the Flash in a fight now? People are using crossover matches to determine the outcome despite one's history. That's just jobbing. It's the same thing with some... other characters. The opponent's history doesn't matter because their character did something in a crossover fight.
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Showings in comics arent 100% consistent thats why one somedays certain characters can do insane feats and others can't that doesnt mean they can do it all the time.
Its a comicbook in comicbooks the impossibilie can happen. You don't decide what makes sense and what doesn't make sense in a reality full of impossibilities. You have to look at the context of the universe and in this universe it possible.
No isn't Firelord was tired.
Those characters are alot more skillful and I never argued he could one shot hulk.
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So then logic doesn't matter in a debate. Well that's not even good trolling Deadline. You can do better than that. It isn't even your A material. You aren't trying anymore.
Yes, doesnt mean it should be used as an argument in a vs forum. Spider-man koed Absorbing Man, yet you dont see me argue that he's gonna do that to Thing or Colossus. Or oneshot Luke Cage since he isnt as tough as AM.
I dont decide that. Anything is possible in comics world, yeah, but that doesnt mean we have to accept EVERY crazy thing that happens in books and use it as a debating argument on a vs forum as if its a norm or makes sense. We'd have threads like Luke Cage vs Superman and Thing vs Galactus because "anything is possible in comicbooks". In order to avoid that we still should use some kind of logic and follow some rules. And common sense suggests that Hulk who tanks punches from Juggernaut, Namor and Thor's hammer should not get kncoked out by Steve who is just an enhanced comicbook human.
He was beaten, blown up twice, had a building fall on his head, was holding back and took a 1000 punches before getting KOed, yet in "Rules" its used as an example of PIS because he's a cosmic being that normally takes atacks from Silver Surfer.
In that case I dont mind it happening in comics, just like I dont mind Black Panther threatening to rip Silver Surfer's arm off. But I dont see how it makes a difference on the forum vs Daredevil who is almost as strong and skilled as Steve.
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I always wonder this, is it pis becuase Spiderman Koed him or because firelord fought like an idiot? because I honestly think it kinda legit that spiderman KO him, but I also understand that in forum fight that would not go down like that.
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C'mon don't give me any trolling. Give me your best. I'm insulted by this.
Silly... aim dodging means you dodge the person's aim. Which means you are faster than the person. An average person can do that. You're not dodging the bullet, simply moving out of the way of the person firing it.
Well, at least they tried to exaplain FL's reasons and why he was holding back. Im not that familliar with his character and dont know if he should care about innocent people. But yeah, it'd never go like that on a forum, that's why noone ever seriously brings that up. Only for the lols.
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You can do that or move their hand out of the way while moving the other way. It's all the streets can do and low metas as well. Spider-Man can move with one coming at him if the distance is sufficient, but that's about it really. Not impossible at all really. Training lowers your reflex time. Not that I'm advertising anybody get in front of a hostile person with a gun.
That's just aim dodging, dodging the aim, not the bullet.
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