In your mind. But this properly belongs in the SWV forum, and there it's EU all the way.
But if you really wanna get technical, than yeah. Vader's too slow for Maul in the movies.
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Without the terrain caveat, AniVader would have demolished Kenobi. Maul is a much less conservative combatant, and the fight would last much less time.
One Force push sent an enraged Kenobi tumbling. Same shit can happen to Maul from an experienced Sith Lord like Vader.
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Not a chance. Maul took on two jedi's which included a younger obi but he beat them both.
That didn't happen to maul it happened to obi. Maul already crushed his master and fought two at once yet was still more than formidable enough to do so.
TPM Kenobi and Qui-Gon were utilizing a saber style not suited for such closed-in combat. Maul's double-bladed Juyo overwhelmed their Ataru. RotS Kenobi's Soresu (ultimate defensive form for which he was the all-time master of) wasn't enough to stop Vader's attacks. He only lived as long he did due to familiarity with Anakin's style. And he's a helluva more powerful/skilled/experienced than his TPM self.
Pre-suit Vader's ferocious Djem So saber style and ever-increasing strength as the the battle goes on (not to mention the power the Dark Side grants) will be too much for Maul to contend with. Only when Vader's been seriously hampered in the mobility department does Maul stand a good chance of beating him. Unless the Force is allowed offensively.
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I didn't see anywhere near the athleticism from Vader anywhere pre suit like I did from Maul. Vader also seems to be far too emotional and make stupid decisions like he did against Obi. His impatience and anger will be his downfall.
I mean obi told him not to jump and he still did it anyways and was defeated through sheer stupidity because he's an emotional lunatic.
Supposition on your part. This is why it's preferable to include the body of EU work or movie novelizations (which are G-canon, like the movies): they offer a greater insight to the characters' skills and mentalities.
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The acrobatics on cables (while floating down the river) show more athleticism than Maul's fancy parkour moves. The Jump that you mention is an incredible display of Force strength and atheleticism.
Maul has a jump from platform to platform. He has a fancy kickflip. The two don't really compare.
don't forget Vader's strength in overwhelming Dooku, and in climbing the elevator with two men on his back. That is definitly athleticism from him that we don't see from Maul.
Please enlighten me how Maul would win? He lasted one movie, and didn't even have a total grasp on the force. Vader had total control of the force, and he would manhandle Maul. In the EU then Maul puts up more of a fight. But this is MVF. And that matters not.
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Jumping a greater distance and the manner in which Maul incorporated kicks and attacks was much more effective than Vader. For all Vader's athleticism he failed to gain an advantage on Obi.
He also should have been killed there and was saved from Dooku the first time around. vader was lucky and always had aid from the good guys and the bad.
Maul was very unlucky as he had defeated both opponents and lost to Obi wan while taunting him.
*facepalm* going by screen feats alone Vader wins. ANd the fact that you aren't even admitting that is sad. Vader not only has shown better lightsaber skills than Maul he's also done more with the lightsaber than maul. Even in the EU. So how's that for logic? I can see you come from the comic vs forum, but I'm sure they tell you to back your shit up with facts and feats. So do it. Please.
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