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Lord Lucien
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He's a slowpoke alright. And when an oyster bites his ass, he transform in to a wicked bro.


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Originally posted by Zampanó
I'd go with moldy Voldy here.

Sauron is sloooooooooow




(Even with the books, he gets tossed. LotR "majyke" is not nearly flashy enough to deal with any other universe at all.)
K so I guess Voldy wins then? confused


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Can't remember, but despite my hatred for LOTR, I was like 'Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?"
You aren't even sure of yourself are you ?

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In the books Sauron's body is perfectly susceptible to damage. Movie too. He'll come at Voldemort with his giant club and get Avada Kedavra'd.
You really think it's 'this easy ?


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Sure. What's movie Sauron got that Voldemort can't overcome? A club? Height? Assuming of course neither can cancel out the magic of the other, movie Sauron's really got nothing to his name that he can utilize to defeat Voldemort in a combat scenario. He's only ever seen whacking groups of Men and reaching slowly with his Ring hand to one on the ground.


Avada Kedavra, his body dies again.


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He's got a really nice beard.


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Sauron? His face is made of... like, rock, or something.


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Plus he actually had hair.


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Sure. What's movie Sauron got that Voldemort can't overcome? A club? Height? Assuming of course neither can cancel out the magic of the other, movie Sauron's really got nothing to his name that he can utilize to defeat Voldemort in a combat scenario. He's only ever seen whacking groups of Men and reaching slowly with his Ring hand to one on the ground.


Avada Kedavra, his body dies again.
I don't see Voldemort's spells as being powerful eoihg to defeat him. There are mages in lotr and entire armies that would make the death eaters run to their mamas and Sauron single handedly was turning the tide. he was defeated through pure luck and even his eye seemed bvastly more powerful in the movies than Voldemort.


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Provided that Sauron's armor doesn't stop avada kadava, Voldemort stomps this easy. I don't see how Sauron can even get close to him though with appirition.


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Provided that Sauron's armor doesn't stop avada kadava, Voldemort stomps this easy. I don't see how Sauron can even get close to him though with appirition.
So you feel Sauron was less formidable than the witch king, saruman, and gandalf and so on ?


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Seriously, Sauron was defeated by having his finger cut by a broken sword. Voldemort does any random spell to separate the One Ring from him.


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Seriously, Sauron was defeated by having his finger cut by a broken sword. Voldemort does any random spell to separate the One Ring from him.
Due to luck. We saw it wasn't that easy just a case of luck, seriously. LOL at you thinking any schlub can easily defeat Sauron. By your logic saruman and Gandalf are greater than him when this just simply isn't the case.


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By feats (I guess?) Sauron would **** Gandalf and Saruman up, simply because they don't have the capabilities to get past his armor. But by those feats, Sauron's a slow, heavy ****er, and Voldemort runs rings around him until he comes up with a spell that puts him down. Though now that I think about it his armor would stop the death spell imo.


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By feats (I guess?) Sauron would **** Gandalf and Saruman up, simply because they don't have the capabilities to get past his armor. But by those feats, Sauron's a slow, heavy ****er, and Voldemort runs rings around him until he comes up with a spell that puts him down. Though now that I think about it his armor would stop the death spell imo.
We don't just go by feats we should also go by character portrayal. We don't just take his death and then ignore the entire three movies which had an entire world shitting their pants from his possible return if he were this easy to beat.


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And what combat abilities does that translate into? How fast can he call upon them? What's his area of effect and range? We know none of these things. I don't base my judgements upon rumour and speculation, and neither should you.


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And what combat abilities does that translate into? How fast can he call upon them? What's his area of effect and range? We know none of these things. I don't base my judgements upon rumour and speculation, and neither should you.
I don't either we saw his power was enough to swing his mace and kill numerous men with his his mace. We didn't get to see many capabilities since he died very quickly but it was due to a lucky strike. Portrayal is huge.


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Feats are bigger. And Sauron has very few of those.


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Feats are bigger. And Sauron has very few of those.
No, feats aren't bigger and shouldn't be. By your logic saruman, gandalf, harry potter can defeat Sauron.


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If Sauron is such an incredibly destructive force, why does he need a massive army, more massive than any other on Middle Earth?

The One Ring was not some mere power amplification device, using it, he would have total control over the other Rings of Power. With it, his command over his already vast, powerful armies would increase, and it would spread a wave of terror among his foes. However, this can be resisted, as seen when Isildur ****ed his shit up.

Sauron is nowhere near invincible with the Ring, he has been defeated three separate times while wielding it.

Sauron is personally just not that powerful, especially in the movies.


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