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And Christianity hates Wizards, yet god allowed the Nazis to conquer a lot of the world....go figure lol

As a Christian I can tell you that we have no problems with wizards, when we say we hate witchcraft we're referring to the movie series no expression

And yeah Hogwarts takes this, the ark isn't going to help the reich anymore than it's going to mess it over.


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As a Christian I can tell you that we have no problems with wizards, when we say we hate witchcraft we're referring to the movie series no expression

And yeah Hogwarts takes this, the ark isn't going to help the reich anymore than it's going to mess it over.
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Originally posted by General_Iroh
As a Christian I can tell you that we have no problems with wizards, when we say we hate witchcraft we're referring to the movie series no expression

And yeah Hogwarts takes this, the ark isn't going to help the reich anymore than it's going to mess it over.


Your sect might not...and thats progressive and good.
But the thats not been the case with all of your fellow subdivisons within Christianity. smile

Exodus 22:19
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl2.htm

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"


Exodus 22:18 in 19 English translations of the Bible:

Various Biblical translations render this verse as:

American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live."
The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery.
Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic.
James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live.
Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death.
Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live.
New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live.
New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live.
New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live.
New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
The Promise: Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live.
In the original Hebrew manuscript, the author used the word m'khashepah to describe the person who should be killed. The word means a woman who uses spoken spells to harm others - e.g. causing their death or loss of property. Clearly "evil sorceress" or "woman who does evil magic" would be the most accurate phrases in today's English usage for this verse."


Carried out into actuality here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

Thank you for your input, was appreciated. smile


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A) not a spite thread, whiner.

B) To be an "again" situation, it has to have had a similar or identical occurance of it before....(See A again, for example..)


More info on Hitler's buddying up with/usage of god...
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

Just to show you that this isn't that far fetched as you might think.


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Christopher Hitchens on Hitler, religion and its role in the reich.


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A) not a spite thread, whiner.

B) To be an "again" situation, it has to have had a similar or identical occurance of it before....(See A again, for example..)


More info on Hitler's buddying up with/usage of god...
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

Just to show you that this isn't that far fetched as you might think.
The man was evil, dude. The Ark killed evil Nazis in ROTL. The wizards are not evil.


Figure it out.


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God wiped out whole cities with it. Women children, the lot.
Pretty evil. He wasn't going for military installations with that baby.

Evil/Mass killing is seen at the end of the movie by the ark,
Most Nazis normal people were following orders, believing themselves to be doing god's work...yet the Ark just wiped them all out like it was Rambo at the end of Rambo 4 only with more skull blasting/facemelting..

The ark also killed a Rat. Was IT a nazi ..? laughing out loud C'mon man.

Also if it could do that to people, why did it let the Nazis live all the way through til that moment. Why did it only have a go at that rat.
Why was God punishing that creature?
You cannot prove that it was from Germany, or that it held pro-beliefs in Hitler's reformation of Germany and to all for which that stood..


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God wiped out whole cities with it. Women children, the lot.
Pretty evil. He wasn't going for military installations with that baby.

Evil/Mass killing is seen at the end of the movie by the ark,
Most Nazis normal people were following orders, believing themselves to be doing god's work...yet the Ark just wiped them all out like it was Rambo at the end of Rambo 4 only with more skull blasting/facemelting..

The ark also killed a Rat. Was IT a nazi ..? laughing out loud C'mon man.

Also if it could do that to people, why did it let the Nazis live all the way through til that moment. Why did it only have a go at that rat.
Why was God punishing that creature?
You cannot prove that it was from Germany, or that it held pro-beliefs in Hitler's reformation of Germany and to all for which that stood..
You're missing the point. God would not give them the Ark to being with.


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Who to are you to be telling god what he would or wouldn't do...?
Especially god being a character in one of my OP's parameters.
It was STATED CLEARLY IN THE OPENING POST that Jesus gives Hitler the Ark... and this obviously couldn't occur without God's say so, if you believe in an intervening God as opposed to the Deist concept.

They have the ark, now stop your tears.
"God with us." - Read the link/vid.


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If that's the case, The wizards kill the nazis, then the Ark kills the wizards.


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Your sect might not...and thats progressive and good.
But the thats not been the case with all of your fellow subdivisons within Christianity. smile

Exodus 22:19
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl2.htm

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"


Exodus 22:18 in 19 English translations of the Bible:

Various Biblical translations render this verse as:

American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live."
The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery.
Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic.
James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live.
Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death.
Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live.
New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live.
New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live.
New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live.
New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
The Promise: Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live.
In the original Hebrew manuscript, the author used the word m'khashepah to describe the person who should be killed. The word means a woman who uses spoken spells to harm others - e.g. causing their death or loss of property. Clearly "evil sorceress" or "woman who does evil magic" would be the most accurate phrases in today's English usage for this verse."


Carried out into actuality here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

Thank you for your input, was appreciated. smile

True, most Christians are very much against witchcraft, because none of them know what it is lol. Most Christians are raised to think that it's some horrific covenant with the devil and they're scared to the point that they never want to look into it. Classic stuff. anyway nice site, read this from the same site and it says pretty much that the Biblical interpretation of witchcraft is completely different from the Harry Potter version.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl1.htm

That said unless you're just making the ark attack the wizards regardless then the reich will probably win. The only reason I'm hesitant to give them the win is that they could handle dementors and I'm not sure how much of a difference it would be fighting a dementor and fighting a spirit, the spirits in harry potter seemed susceptible to magic. They were able to be frozen, not killed. But if they have the entire reich after them at the same time then they probably wouldn't be able to win erm


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If that's the case, The wizards kill the nazis, then the Ark kills the wizards.


Well alright.
Thats a step in the direction of reasonable argument.


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True, most Christians are very much against witchcraft, because none of them know what it is lol. Most Christians are raised to think that it's some horrific covenant with the devil and they're scared to the point that they never want to look into it. Classic stuff. anyway nice site, read this from the same site and it says pretty much that the Biblical interpretation of witchcraft is completely different from the Harry Potter version.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl1.htm

That said unless you're just making the ark attack the wizards regardless then the reich will probably win. The only reason I'm hesitant to give them the win is that they could handle dementors and I'm not sure how much of a difference it would be fighting a dementor and fighting a spirit, the spirits in harry potter seemed susceptible to magic. They were able to be frozen, not killed. But if they have the entire reich after them at the same time then they probably wouldn't be able to win erm


Yes that was an interesting point (and a good post too).
Indeed "can the Potter magic override God's power..?" does seem to be the question that keeps coming back.


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Well alright.
Thats a step in the direction of reasonable argument.
What argument? That you brought in an unbeatable force to kill the wizards?

Tell me, name one force in movie history that can tank the Ark.


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Mhm, EVIL Nazis. The Hogwarts wizards are not evil.


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So Voldemort was in fact a good guy?

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Nah, but Dumbledore and the Hogwarts crew are.


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What argument? That you brought in an unbeatable force to kill the wizards?

Tell me, name one force in movie history that can tank the Ark.


The force might.

And a Death Star almost certainly would do it.

And the force is more powerful than the Deathstar.


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The force might.

And a Death Star almost certainly would do it.

And the force is more powerful than the Deathstar.


Not if the Ark were ON the death star.

But you know, all the wizards have to do is VANISH it. big grin


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I repeat: What HP screen feat is there of Wizards having the power to disappear somthing planet or even small moon that looks like a space station sized?

Oops. None whatsoever.

You have NOTHING to base that speculation on. smile


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The Death Star is not a force power. It's a technological terror. It requires zero force abilities to operate it.


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