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Well what are you allowing each character? Not really. Something like Magic or a GL ring would be a walking plot device because it does whatever the writer wants it to. Satsui no Hado hasn't done much of anything for Ryu actually.
Sagat was out of his league at the time. iirc, he crushed Ryu, and thought he won, which led to the Metsu Shoryuken.
Meh, as far as I know, he temp destroyed Bison with a Shoryuken right?
H2H concerned, Ryu is nowhere near as impressive as Gouki though. In terms of punching feats, Gouki's blow Kratos' out of the water, but Kratos' brute strength feats are impressive.
Stuff like Ryu's Hadoukens are the only advantage he has against Kratos in a H2H fight IMO, but I don't know how powerful his hadoukens are. So I think it's far more than just a tier.
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Bison was juimped by Ken, Sakura, Sagat, and possibly over a dozen other characters before he was hit by Ryu, a Ryu he juiced up by shootin'im with Psycho Energy. He wasn't just soloed by Ryu.
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A Gouki who was just testing Ryu out. What's more impressive IMO, is the fact that Ryu survived the encounter. Current Ryu would obviously do better, but I seriously doubt he comes close to even Alpha Gouki. Personally, I think Ryu is near the top of SF, but there's a huge difference between him and the top dogs, like Oro and Gouki.
You kidding brah? Kratos with PIS on his side can beat Elder God level characters.
Srsly though, Kratos with all his equipment and abilities, including the BoO & Fate Manipulation, might break into Mid-herald depending on who else is in that tier; but yeah, Low herald seems about right, considering dudes like Thor and Superman are in High Herald according to KMC's tiering system.
Who else is in High Meta?
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Hmm... mid meta is like Venom. High meta is roughly Iron Man level. Ryu at is best (average) is around that IMO. Ki manip, superhuman stats, and top level fighting skill.
With weapons Kratos... might be at that level, which is why I asked what he had. Then again they put Flash at mid herald which is bs since the Flash is pure haxx.
I agree with the Gap between he and the greats, even though he is seen to be the most powerful... eventually. You don't think he'd be around Alpha Gouki level at SF3? He doesn't have the collateral damage feats, but I didn't see it as a long shot.
Ki manip is what I think would bring him to that level. His physical stats are like at or below Spidey's level no?
I think Flash with CIS on is the reason they put him in Mid-Herald. Flash going all out KMC style, is pure haxx.
Yeah, he's the main protagonist, so he'll eventually surpass Oro and Gouki, if the games get to that point.
Mostly because I think the main difference between Alpha Gouki and SF3 Gouki, are a couple of techs that the latter Gouki has mastered, and perhaps a slight increase in stats.
Alpha Gouki still has SGS and his other SnH techs. SF3 Ryu has no defense against the SGS afaik. Plus, even if SF3 Ryu is 'above' (Alpha) Evil Ryu, he was just a Ryu who had succumbed to the SnH, as opposed to Gouki, who had mastered the SnH to the point where he could stop tapping into it. Thus, Alpha Gouki has the option to 'go Shin', which would definitely put him above SF3 Ryu IMO.
Meh, maybe No End will weigh in on this. He knows far more than I do.
Hmm, was Gouki using the SnH in his fight with Gen? Also, just how powerful is Gen? Above or below Ryu?
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Ryu isn't near the top of SF. He can't even beat SFII Bison.
And SFA Akuma is 'way' weaker than SFIII Akuma. Oro didn't even hear about Akuma til' III and Gen could still kick his ass if he hadn't got cancer. Hell, he had just beat Gouken and only beat Gouken cuz Gouken refused to fight to kill.
Alpha Akuma woulda got his ass thrashed by a 1 handed Oro.
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He did hold that huge boulder up and run with it, but ki manip wouldn't be an issue.
Even then Flash fighting normally would still be top, they've made that clear in the comics. It's his PIS that's the issue, which doesn't count here. They write him down for obvious reasons in the comics. The Flash can do damn near what he wants and would win against Superman and just about any other high herald.
But yea, it was just my opinion that current Ryu would beat Alpha Akuma, could be wrong though.
No End, you think he can't beat Classic Bison at his current state?
Man, Ryu blasted dude's ass to kingdom come at the end.
You might be right...
Thing about that is, she has some nice showings but she hasn't really used'em to beat anyone. For all we know, the other SFs could be just as capable but just lack the showings.
Ryu 'barely' beat a pre-BLEECE Seth. Now Seth has got stolen moves, his Tanden Engine is in full swing, and he's got 25 other versions of him, makin' A>B>C logic very hard. Everyone who is shown beatin' Seth, could just be thrashin' lesser copies.
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I was told that all the endings could be canon. Since there are 25 Seths, those shown beatin' Seth, could have beaten a copy. You can clearly see that Capcom really hates killin' off any of the SF bosses, so it's logical.
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