I've agreed with this for a long; why I find it ridiculous that mothers try and blame a video-games as the reason why they're little precious went out and raped a school-mate or set fire to a litter of puppies. Your child is just ****ed up, deal with it.
Palin is not at fault here, the shooter's an obvious loon; it's all on him. Now it would he hahaha-funny is someone said on the air "Palin should be shot" and some other loon went out and did it, even if it's just a bullet in her ass.
yes, the moral high ground of both encouraging violence against a specific person and subsequently feeling victimized when that person is attacked.
I see your "conservative" logic in its entirety. Take responsibility for your own actions, unless of course you can explain away the consequences as being "someone else's fault"
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Yeah, the shooter is fully responsible for what he did. And Palin for what she did. If you are a public person (and to some degree a private one) you can't call for violence, even if you try to do it sneakily. And I do believe that she doesn't want any violence to happen, but she wants to use the violent rhetoric that appeals to her followers and so she has to be careful what she says, and take responsibility when she ****s up
To any person with even half-sensibility her bulls-eye targets on the map and her verbiage wasn't her saying "we're taking it back by killing". She's a dumb hick and her metaphors reflect that, but that's all they are.
She is a [bigger] retard and a scumbag for playing the victim now though, but she shouldn't apologize for inciting violence, which she didn't, imo. She should apologize for being a retard.
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Like I said, she's trying to walk the line between outright saying it, but her rhetoric is incredibly violent, and she has to realize that there will be certain parts of the population who will take her implications at face value. She's not to blame for anyone's actions but she is to blame for what she said and people pointing that out is a good thing.
We're at an impasse. I don't believe she was trying to imply actual violence in any shape or form. She uses that verbiage because she's a dumb hick and 'reload', 'lock-n-load' etc are metaphors she just uses. That shooter likely would have done what he didn't hadn't she used targets and gun metaphors, imo. Could I be wrong though? Yes.
We can agree on her idiocy though; just about every time she opens her mouth it's shown. Why anyone would listen to her besides for a laugh is beyond me.
Unless you can prove that she encouraged violence against Giffords, please do us a favor by accomplishing what no liberal in history has yet accomplished: shut the **** up.
1. It's become increasingly clear that the shooter was not swayed by any politics at all. High School friends of his are saying that he was not political, he didn't listen to politicians. He was simply a violent pyschopath.
2. As far as Sarah Palin specifically, she can't be blamed for this one. While I think her rhetoric and verbiage is extremely reckless in general with her over use of gun metaphors, the shooter was clearly not swayed by her. In fact, it seems he had been planning this for years, well before Palin was even known to anyone outside of Alaska, and certainly before I fantasized about jerking off on her face.
3. That all said, her statement was incredibly stupid. To put it out on the same day as Obama's, who gave a well reasoned, high spirited and uplifting speech, was just dumb. Especially since hers was more or less playing victim, whing about people being mean to her. Sorry lady, you aren't the victim here, not when there are people dead. No one but her most fervent supporters are going to take what she said yesterday seriously (I.E., Other people who want to jerk off on her face, but don't realize it yet). Just shows how self centered and dim she really is.
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so, in the world you inhabit, putting crosshairs on someone and listing them by name, then stating "reload", doesn't qualify as something Palin should be even embarassed about?
how about this:
Someone shoot Zeal Ex Nihlo
if it happens, there is no way you could possibly blame me
As a conservative who thinks Sarah Palin is an idiot I can tell you that I have no problem with her talking about God or really anything you said, I have a problem with her giving this whole speech, not in honor of Giffords or those killed, but to cover her own ass. That's all this is, her covering her bases and taking any blame off of herself. Do I think Sarah Palin is at all responsible for this? No. But she made this whole speech so that everyone knows it and that's bullshit.
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In the broad sense, yes, it likely could. Look at Nazi rhetoric during the 30's and the crimes committed on Jews from their non-Jew neighbors. I don't think Palin was doing that though.
Anne Coulter's 'kill all rag-heads" rant, now that's different and intended to be as is.
This reminds me of Richard Harter's analysis of The Cold Equations. He mentions that people have a hard time getting their mind around the idea that multiple individuals can be at fault for something that happens.
He uses old factory workers as his example. The industrialists said it was the workers' fault that they lost their limbs. To combat this they spent a lot of time making sure the workers new to be careful. It never occurred to them that their failure to make safe machinery might also be a factor in what happened.
Sure, everyone freaks out. It's because she's a brainfart of some right-wing blogger who, through the stupidity and desperation of the party, ended up perfectly defining everything wrong with the right wing. But, what the hell do you want? You spend so much time talking about how ****ed up the republican party is, and how far they've wandered from their true principles, and then act like there's something wrong with how they compete with the mental midgets you think of the democrats. You don't say much, other than what comes across as practice runs for a college thesis. Everyone understands you're smart and the media, democrats and Sarah Palin are ****tards. Get back to talking about 90% corporate tax rates during the Eisenhower administration.
I find your barganing position highly dubious. It pleases me to be the first. Proceed....on your way to oblivion.
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