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Master Chief vs Sauron
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dadudemon
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Edit - Forgot to note the even if she were a Spartan-III, that would not help your case to downplay John: the Spartan-IIIs were smaller and weaker than the Spartan-IIs. They are a cheaper and lower quality version of the Spartan-IIs.


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The Noble Team from Reach where Spartan III's, and look how badass they were.

And that chick, while a Spartan was more of a scientist than a warrior if I remember correctly. Chief could take a direct hit from a Grav Hammer, kick ass, then ignore the injury till it heals....while kicking more ass and having that weird relationship of his with Cortana.....AND understanding Gravemind.

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Originally posted by KingD19
The Noble Team from Reach where Spartan III's, and look how badass they were.

And that chick, while a Spartan was more of a scientist than a warrior if I remember correctly. Chief could take a direct hit from a Grav Hammer, kick ass, then ignore the injury till it heals....while kicking more ass and having that weird relationship of his with Cortana.....AND understanding Gravemind.


Indeed.

Master Chief is >>>>>>>>>>> all other Spartan IIs.


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He really is, that's why he was made the squad leader of his group. If you read the graphic novel, he's scary with how badass he is.

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I remember a line from somewhere from Dr. Halsey saying that Six was the only other Spartan to be classified as "hyper-lethal", with John being the first.


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"Noble Six. The team's most recent addition.... Hyper-lethal: there's only one other Spartan with that rating..."

"Six has made entire militia groups disappear."

Yeah, he was. Six's entire profile had been blacklined, but Noble 1 found out about him anyway. He was basically Master Chief Lite. He made entire militia groups disappear, took down whole organizations by himself, the whole 9.

And once again I say, he was still no Master Chief, lol.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Sauron was a large human

I never saw a Numenorean get smacked aorund by Sauron in the film.



Pretty damn sure Sauron isn't human.

Also, have you seen the first movie? In the very start of the movie there is a little bit of Numenoreans getting their ass kicked.

With that aside I say that John rapes.


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I have said that Chief wins as long as he avoids the mace


Which even I know he would, hes a bit more nimble than a heavily armored 7'11 guy thats running straight at him


Also, how do you distiguish between the armors? Ive never been much of a HALO universe fan, mainly the games

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Originally posted by Evilbigfoot
Pretty damn sure Sauron isn't human.


I edited my post from "humanoid" to "human" as he's shaped JUST like a human, but larger. The same as master chief.

I changed it because Elites are "humanoid" but Sauron does not look like a Sangheili (The name of the species that Elites are.)

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Also, have you seen the first movie? In the very start of the movie there is a little bit of Numenoreans getting their ass kicked.


Yes I have and I still don't remember those bitches getting knocked about.

Additionally:

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Over 1000lbs is much greater than 400lbs.



On top of that, a Spartan II that was definitely not as leet as John-117, did not get sent flying or was smashed to pieces by a blow from a hammer that delivers many many times more force than the Mace.

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Also, how do you distiguish between the armors? Ive never been much of a HALO universe fan, mainly the games


You have to look at the artwork and read the descriptions. I don't think the Wiki is good enough.

It also helps if you can read it and look at it once and retain the information for regurgitation, later.


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Ahh ok then



Anyways, those are NOT men, they are Numenoreans, come DIRECTLY from Numenor.....

Elendil, Isildur, and Anarion, as well as all the others, were born on Numenor, but were part of the faithful that escaped

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Anyways, those are NOT men, they are Numenoreans, come DIRECTLY from Numenor.....

Elendil, Isildur, and Anarion, as well as all the others, were born on Numenor, but were part of the faithful that escaped


And Isildur's character is Harry Sinclair and he's 6'1", not 7 feet tall like some have stated (was that you?)

Cause, if he was that tall, he'd be about a foot shorter than Sauron, which is not the case. They are a good 2 feet shorter.

Edit - Also, we don't know for sure how tall Sauron was, but we can guess from Tolkein's letter 246. "The form that he took was that of a man of more than human stature, but not gigantic." I'm thinking he was about the same size as Elendil, in the books, but Elendil and co were made to be standard human sized in the movies and Sauron around 8 feet.


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In the movies, yes, he was about 8 feet tall.

Im running the sizes off the books, as it would be unfeasible to make them correct sizes.

In the BOOKS, Elendil was 7'11 and Sauron around 10 feet or so, considering he was standing next to really tall guys

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lol at at Sauron being a human. He is a maia, literally a demi-god or fallen angel.

As for his mace... The weight really doesn't matter as he clearly is using magic hence the flashes of light and why dozens of men go flying in one swing.

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The gravity hammer can send a multi-ton vehicle flying through the air with a single hit.

Getting hurt from being hit with that is not a low point for durability.


Does it do this in the movie? wink

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What's that about the Last Alliance Men not being Numenorean? They so totally are.


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Originally posted by ares834
lol at at Sauron being a human. He is a maia, literally a demi-god or fallen angel.



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Originally posted by dadudemon
I edited my post from "humanoid" to "human" as he's shaped JUST like a human, but larger. The same as master chief.

I changed it because Elites are "humanoid" but Sauron does not look like a Sangheili (The name of the species that Elites are.)



Additionally, Demi-god was not stated in the movie. smile


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As for his mace... The weight really doesn't matter as he clearly is using magic hence the flashes of light and why dozens of men go flying in one swing.


Let's not go with "dozens". Let's go with 4-6.


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No, not 4-6

It really was about a dozen, he had a HUGE reach, and a fairly wide arc

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No, not 4-6

It really was about a dozen, he had a HUGE reach, and a fairly wide arc


I just watched the vid. It literally varies from the smallest, 4, to 6, the greatest.


And, those men were men. They were not 7 foot tall Nummies. No where does it say they were Nums. This is the MVF.


Regardless, the Nummies are flies to Master Chief and his much stronger body, bones, muscles, etc. Even his reflexes are 300 (unsure) times faster than a humans. Additionally, the suit that he wears would destroy the bones of a human. So, the Nums (n the books), are around the same stature as Master Chief, they would turn to pudding inside that suit.


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Additionally, Demi-god was not stated in the movie. smile


I don't recall the movie stating he was anything else either. However, one can assume from his titanic size that he not human or elf.


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I don't recall the movie stating he was anything else either. However, one can assume from his titanic size that he not human or elf.


We can assume, though, that he's shaped just like a human...just bigger (even then, ther are humans that appear to be around his size...they are just anomalies.)


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Is that really the way we are going with this? That is honestly the stupidest shit ever. I guess Master Chief isn't a spartan 3 as it isn't stated in the movie...

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