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The Bride(Uma Thurman) vs Nameless hero(Jet Li)
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It doesn't mater that the "happened on screen," because in the context of the movie that isn't what actually happened... and that's what is important. Something happened, but it wasn't what we saw. What the Nameless Hero can do is pure speculation. He has no feats, he loses.


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I told you that if you continued to troll like this that you'd receive a warning, didn't I? Well, there you go.

Your attitude is something that needs tweaking. After reading your warning history, it's obvious that you tend to come off like this.

Here in this forum, what happens on screen is canon. Your intepretations don't change the fact that the fights are seen on screen and are viable for the thread.

Any more of this, and more warnings will follow.

Back to topic.


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Originally posted by Impediment
I told you that if you continued to troll like this that you'd receive a warning, didn't I? Well, there you go.

Your attitude is something that needs tweaking. After reading your warning history, it's obvious that you tend to come off like this.

Here in this forum, what happens on screen is canon. Your intepretations don't change the fact that the fights are seen on screen and are viable for the thread.

Any more of this, and more warnings will follow.

Back to topic.


Frankly you are being childish and abusing your power as a moderator. The rule says on screen feats are canon, but do you really want me to believe for a second that extents to what is essentially a dream sequence? So I guess as far as you are concerned on this forum Jack Black in Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny can fly (and is the son of a Sasquatch), and The Big Lebowski can also fly, because they did so on screen in drug induced hallucinations and dream sequences? I know what the rules say, but are you really telling be that the context of the movie is irrelevant? REALLY? If that is really the case, amend the rules and write that in there.


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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Frankly you are being childish and abusing your power as a moderator. The rule says on screen feats are canon, but do you really want me to believe for a second that extents to what is essentially a dream sequence? So I guess as far as you are concerned on this forum Jack Black in Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny can fly (and is the son of a Sasquatch), and The Big Lebowski can also fly, because they did so on screen in drug induced hallucinations and dream sequences? I know what the rules say, but are you really telling be that the context of the movie is irrelevant? REALLY? If that is really the case, amend the rules and right that in there.
Are you serious? Really? Tell me this is a joke. Please.


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Are you serious? Really? Tell me this is a joke. Please.


Of course I'm serious. In the context of the movie nothing we saw actually happened, how can that possibly be irrelevant to a discussion on the character? But whatever, if we are going to pretend that Nameless Hero's feats actually took place then he stomps.


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The moderator told you the way it was, srankmissingnin. Next time you don't listen to that you get a ban.


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On a serious note though, despite what that guy whose name I can't bother with trying to remember on my phone. Nameless did fight Sky, Snow, and Sword. Sky was even in front our witnesses. He used the death at ten paces on then, got their weapons, met the emperor, etc.... A lot of what nameless said was a lie, but parts of the movie did happen

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Except the fights we saw on screen didn't happen and we have no idea of the capabilities the Nameless Hero. The whole movie was essentially a dream sequence, none of it was canon.


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You are right.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Frankly you are being childish and abusing your power as a moderator. The rule says on screen feats are canon, but do you really want me to believe for a second that extents to what is essentially a dream sequence? So I guess as far as you are concerned on this forum Jack Black in Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny can fly (and is the son of a Sasquatch), and The Big Lebowski can also fly, because they did so on screen in drug induced hallucinations and dream sequences? I know what the rules say, but are you really telling be that the context of the movie is irrelevant? REALLY? If that is really the case, amend the rules and write that in there.


What you don't seem to get, and it's very simple:

If the thread starter CHOOSES to use those sequences from the films for his or her opening post.........IT'S AN ON-SCREEN FEAT AND COUNTS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE THREAD.

While you scream that you are bereft of your logic in the forum rules, you are only bereft of your imagination.

Yes, that means the opening post is "canon" to the thread and that thread only. We could get all transitive and state that every thread, ever, must use all equipment and all items in their literal representations, from every film, in order to avoid violating your almost arbitrary rules of how threads should be.




What it boils down to: This is Impediments domain, he set up the rules, and one of the rules is "movie screen feats, only." That leaves the thread starter to construct OPs from any portions of the films, creating their own canon versions (while still ONLY being able to use the on-screen feats, only rule).

What does this mean? If The Nameless One was shown defeating 500 dudes at once, he can defeat 500 dudes at once if the thread starter chooses to use that version of the character from the film.




You can cry defamation of fictional characters when they deny the thread characters essential or standard equipment and abilities (for example, denying a Jedi the force and saber or taking away Blade's super strength.)



Also, tone down the hostilities, dude: there's no reason to get banned over something this silly. If you do not like the way a thread is setup because you think it destroys your interpretation of the film, PM Impediment and ask if you can make a duplicate thread with a different set of OP rules. He is VERY flexible and laid back: he's allowed me to do so at least twice for threads he hated anyway (it was something like Lord Voldemort vs. Sidious).




So, in conclusion….can you create threads that focus only on a flying The Dude or a Sasquatch having father Jack Black? YES! laughing That’s why this place is so fun. You’d just have to outline in your OP that the only version of the character you want to use for that thread was the “dream” sequence thread. I seem to remember some very fun threads just like that being created here I the MVF. If you do not like it, you can post elsewhere: there are tons of other versus forums on KMC, alone, much less the internet.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
What you don't seem to get, and it's very simple:

If the thread starter CHOOSES to use those sequences from the films for his or her opening post.........IT'S AN ON-SCREEN FEAT AND COUNTS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE THREAD.

While you scream that you are bereft of your logic in the forum rules, you are only bereft of your imagination.

Yes, that means the opening post is "canon" to the thread and that thread only. We could get all transitive and state that every thread, ever, must use all equipment and all items in their literal representations, from every film, in order to avoid violating your almost arbitrary rules of how threads should be.




What it boils down to: This is Impediments domain, he set up the rules, and one of the rules is "movie screen feats, only." That leaves the thread starter to construct OPs from any portions of the films, creating their own canon versions (while still ONLY being able to use the on-screen feats, only rule).

What does this mean? If The Nameless One was shown defeating 500 dudes at once, he can defeat 500 dudes at once if the thread starter chooses to use that version of the character from the film.




You can cry defamation of fictional characters when they deny the thread characters essential or standard equipment and abilities (for example, denying a Jedi the force and saber or taking away Blade's super strength.)



Also, tone down the hostilities, dude: there's no reason to get banned over something this silly. If you do not like the way a thread is setup because you think it destroys your interpretation of the film, PM Impediment and ask if you can make a duplicate thread with a different set of OP rules. He is VERY flexible and laid back: he's allowed me to do so at least twice for threads he hated anyway (it was something like Lord Voldemort vs. Sidious).




So, in conclusion….can you create threads that focus only on a flying The Dude or a Sasquatch having father Jack Black? YES! laughing That’s why this place is so fun. You’d just have to outline in your OP that the only version of the character you want to use for that thread was the “dream” sequence thread. I seem to remember some very fun threads just like that being created here I the MVF. If you do not like it, you can post elsewhere: there are tons of other versus forums on KMC, alone, much less the internet.


I've already conceded to the mods ruling, but that isn't how the OP set up this thread. There was no clarification that all the scenes were considered valid in spite of the context of the film, all he did was name the characters... hell, the OP even agreed with my assessment (because I'm right). It's just a very odd rule, if I was on the KMC Comic Versus Forums citing hallucinations or dream sequences over and over and ignoring the context of the feats... I'd get a warning... here I get a warning for the opposite. My mistake, I assumed there was inherent consistency across the various Versus Forums on KMC, which clearly isn't the case. I assumed that the "On screen feats are canon" rule was the same as the Comic Versus Forum rule "On Panel Feats are canon," but only with in the context they were provided... but I was wrong, so we can all move on now.


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I've already conceded to the mods ruling, but that isn't how the OP set up this thread. There was no clarification that all the scenes were considered valid in spite of the context of the film, all he did was name the characters... hell, the OP even agreed with my assessment (because I'm right). It's just a very odd rule, if I was on the KMC Comic Versus Forums citing hallucinations or dream sequences over and over and ignoring the context of the feats... I'd get a warning... here I get a warning for the opposite. My mistake, I assumed there was inherent consistency across the various Versus Forums on KMC, which clearly isn't the case. I assumed that the "On screen feats are canon" rule was the same as the Comic Versus Forum rule "On Panel Feats are canon," but only with in the context they were provided... but I was wrong, so we can all move on now.


I don't believe there is any rule against making two characters fight based on a dream sequence in the comic book vs. forum, either. If they had a dream and their powers were defined or set, you could make a versus thread using that version of the character, as well. In fact, I'd say that due to the immense amount of "versions" to choose from, it would be impossible to have any reasonable versus discussion without first specifying the version or at least time frame of character you want in your OP.

So, no, it's not the opposite in comic book vs. forum: the rules are the same. It's still up to the thread starter to specify the thread conditions.



In the case of this thread, he did not need to specify which version of the character. If no version is specified, all powers and abilities seen in the films can be used. That means every single version. Contrast this with a Harry Potter versus thread in which no year is specified for HP: that means all powers, abilities, and feats from all of his films count and can be used.


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