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Who would be a good matchup for Zoom now?
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cdtm
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Is this from the Flashpoint thing?

Zooms supposed to be responsible for the coming reboot, but it's going to be a hard sell explaining how anything he can do can affect "everything", from Supermans origins and costume to other characters who predate Flash...

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I've seen scans of Zoom punching someone far less powerful or durable than a skyfather and unable to ko them just the same.


That's the point of having new feats, right? If Zoom got upgraded, what he did or failed to do in the past is irrelevant. Superman failed to fly in 1938, Flash couldn't run faster than lightspeed, Thor couldn't move faster than lightspeed...it's all changed, and none of what came before matters when you're talking current versions

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any decent precog (Franklin Richards), or Time Traveler (Classic Strange).

lol, and yet if I paired Superman against those characters, you would say he wins by speedblitz! hypocrisy ftw.


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Originally posted by Cogito
That's the point of having new feats, right? If Zoom got upgraded, what he did or failed to do in the past is irrelevant. Superman failed to fly in 1938, Flash couldn't run faster than lightspeed, Thor couldn't move faster than lightspeed...it's all changed, and none of what came before matters when you're talking current versions


Anyway, I'm fairly sure Quan is talking about Hunter Zoloman Zoom, rather than Eobard Thawne Professor Zoom, who's the one from Flashpoint.


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Lucifer might be able to get a couple of wins against him, but it would be an uphill battle. Zoom is just so fast, most of the time Morningstar wouldn't even know he was in a fight.


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Living Tribunal is completely outclassed. Before he can even think of attacking, the fight will be over.

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Living Tribunal is completely outclassed. Before he can even think of attacking, the fight will be over.


Absolutely. LT has often been taken unawares even by much slower opponents, and has never gone up against anyone even approaching Zoom's level of speed. It would be like pitting a slug against a mongoose.


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Random poster: Zoom could take down a skyfather.

quanchi112: That's odd because I've never seen him taken down a skyfather and failed to take down much less than skyfathers, do you have any scan?

Random poster: So just because he's failed to take down character weaker than skyfathers doesn't mean that he can't take down a skyfather?

quanchi112: Scan?

Random poster: Zoom could take down the Living Tribunal because the Living Tribunal have been taken down by less.

I'm sorry but quanchi112 just roasted you.

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Zoom's best feats are so fast they can't even be depicted on panel.


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That's the point of having new feats, right? If Zoom got upgraded, what he did or failed to do in the past is irrelevant. Superman failed to fly in 1938, Flash couldn't run faster than lightspeed, Thor couldn't move faster than lightspeed...it's all changed, and none of what came before matters when you're talking current versions
So then what has happened currently that makes you think he can best odin ? Simple question so quit dancing around it.


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So then what has happened currently that makes you think he can best odin ? Simple question so quit dancing around it.


I did no dancing. I never mentioned anything about Zoom beating Odin, in fact I think he'd get his ass kicked if he tried. I was merely making a point.

That said, Zoom may reach the point where he would be able to take on Odin soon enough

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I did no dancing. I never mentioned anything about Zoom beating Odin, in fact I think he'd get his ass kicked if he tried. I was merely making a point.

That said, Zoom may reach the point where he would be able to take on Odin soon enough
More wishful thinking.


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Jubilee.


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Iron Fist.


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X-Men Legacy #150

Persona's Name: Time Sink -
Ability: the capacity to manipulate time.

Time Freeze
Time Sink can perform isolated time freeze. Here he freezes Frenzy dead in her tracks.
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Shunts Energy
Magneto attempts to turn off his power, by creating an emp pulse in his brain. Time Sink easily counters, by shunting that energy into the past.
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Time Displacement
Time Sink catches Magento off guard, and beats him…by placing Gambits future attempts to attack him into the current present.
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Temporal Walkthrough
Time Sink forces Gambit to relive the harsher moments of life, knocking him out.
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Extensive Chronol Powers
His temporal powers are extensive, and not bounded by the 4th dimension. With the capacity to pull of Zoom like feats. Time Sink can hit a second earlier, or a year late. He demonstrates this, by not only dodging Legion lightening attack. But took a time out go look for a knife.
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Legion assimilates Time Sink, gaining the ability to call up all his abilities, and experience on the whim.
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Legion can now pull off Zoom like feats.


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bizzaro with 1 days prep.

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bizzaro with 1 days prep.


Please, a batkick and he's done. Permanently.

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thanos with the space & time gems

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