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Senor Cage
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Not if it subdues CN first. She'll be incapable of using her powers.

Jul 6th, 2011 08:10 PM

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How will it subdue her when her tk prevents that?

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Jul 6th, 2011 08:11 PM

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Spirits and ghosts are magic/spiritual, so the lasso being magic would have relevance to them.

Has it worked on someone on the none magic variety?

It doesn't matter though, CN just pushes it away with tk.

Iirc, she's used the lasso to effect someone who had phased, but I can't cite a specific issue at the moment; I'd have to dig around.

But yeah, TK should be viable if she wrests it from Diana's grip.

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Not unless her armor provides intense spiritual/soul based defenses which is the one thing shown to be able to resist the lasso. That or literally having no soul.

Either way, Diana's kinda boned. Either she saves the lasso to bolster her own defenses and is without a surefire or next to surefire way to attack Nova, or she tries to end it quickly with the lasso and hope she can end it before the mindrape begins.

it is quite possible a mumudari has no soul, but thats not what I was getting at. the lasso must touch nova and the energy armor, which is like a force-field, can physically keep it out

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How will it subdue her when her tk prevents that?

By holding CN in a tight grip that she can't get out of?

Jul 6th, 2011 08:13 PM

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it is quite possible a mumudari has no soul, but thats not what I was getting at. the lasso must touch nova and the armor can physically keep it out

It depends on the nature of her psy-armor, imo.

It is just like telekinetic solidified energy? Or like an invisible psychic force?

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By holding CN in a tight grip that she can't get out of?

The lasso can't get around her if the tk prevents it from even getting near her.

I'm not sure what you think I'm saying.

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Jul 6th, 2011 08:15 PM

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I think she can get the lasso fast enough around her. super speed and all.

Jul 6th, 2011 08:18 PM

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It depends on the nature of her psy-armor, imo.

It is just like telekinetic solidified energy? Or like an invisible psychic force?

seemed pretty solid to me, she grabbed objects adn people with and IIRC nobody reached inside ***

Jul 6th, 2011 08:19 PM

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I think she can get the lasso fast enough around her. super speed and all.

I don't.

Speed of thought and all.

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Jul 6th, 2011 08:19 PM

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WW is capable of being faster than that. CN won't know what hit her ugly ass. smile

Jul 6th, 2011 08:20 PM

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Flash isn't.

So WW isn't.

Apparently, telepath's speed of thought > speedsters.

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Jul 6th, 2011 08:21 PM

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Some of that is PIS and Flash has attacked some tps before they knew what hit them. Hector Hammond comes to mind same with Grodd.

Jul 6th, 2011 08:22 PM

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Grodd owned Flash with tp.

HH is shit.

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Jul 6th, 2011 08:23 PM

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Recently Grodd said he had a hard time getting into his head, but that was because of the Speed Force. Flash has also hit Grodd many times before he can react.

Jul 6th, 2011 08:24 PM

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And Flash is much faster than WW.

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Jul 6th, 2011 08:25 PM

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BTW, HH is a more powerful TP than Grodd. and just more formidable overall in the mind department.

Jul 6th, 2011 08:25 PM

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seemed pretty solid to me, she grabbed objects adn people with and IIRC nobody reached inside ***

I think Diana could feasibly shatter the armor if its solidified telekinetic energy - a scan/image of said armor would be cool if anyone had one ready - either under her own physical power or through the tiara or the lasso itself (either through wrapping the lasso around her fist or by wrapping the lasso around the armor itself). However, Nova's TK could ward off such attempts. I'm more knowledgeable about her TP powers than her TK, but WW isn't explicitly TK resistant nor is her gear.

But again, the lasso is either going to be used defensively, in which case WW's shots of beating Nova are reduced as she won't have the means normally to actually harm her in spite of being defended against mental attacks.

Or...

Diana will use it as a weapon, in which case, she's left open for mental assaults, and yes, while WW is highly resistant to TP, Nova, frankly, shits all over Maxwell Lord and Dr. Psycho, imo, whom she's no sold. And I for one, don't want to apply no limits fallacy to Diana's psy-resistence.

And that's assuming Diana knows she's fighting a telepath who can be intangible for both.

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