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Lek Kuen
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Dude his best atack almost killed Skaar early on, anything less than that shows it's not his best because he was less effective. He was mad but not as mad. He was getting messed up by those flashbacks because he was mad at himself, he was being the father in those as you saw at the end it had been hurting him inside to do that. At least imo that's what the point of those specific flashbacks were.

Skaars trick at the end was impressive but stop acting like he's above Hulk when he's not.


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Healing factors are even cheaper.. I kind of like that there's something to counter a hf.

I wonder how the blades would have affected World War Hulks healing factor? He was healing up extremely fast, and the blades don't stop a hf, they only retard it.. So, would it slow down WWH's hf to the point where he was taking damage, or only to the point where he's healing as slowly as Wolverine usually does..?



hf is to marvel, what durability is to dc...its their bread and butter. But alas we will never know, imo if daken fought hulk with it during wwh, he would have killed him


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We're not reading it the same way, if that's how you saw it.

Skaar told Hulk about his wifes final death to piss him off, and Hulks flashbacks were proof that it worked.

The action of the fight proves this. Hulk was trying to take his head off with his best punches, and chasing after him in a bloodlusted rage.


I looked back at it and it does seem to be for both him and skaar so my bad on that.

but still doesn't change that Hulk could have clearly killed him earlier and was winning untill they got into the ocean when Skaar used his trick on him. You say Skaar didn't try other stuff, well I say Hulk didn't try thunderclapping it back.

Either way we saw Hulk mess him up in two to three punches at the end once he got even madder than before yelling at his dad. Hulk > Skaar ok?

Skaar did good but hes not better than hulk every other issues showed that.


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Hulk wins, Muramasa claws or no Muramasa claws.


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Skaar threw his sword through Hulks arm at the beginning of the fight he didn't have it when he used that sand attack. While Hulk was recovering Skaar was still giving him punches to the face and back of the head but still couldn't KO him.

It's clear Hulk looked superior and was holding back. Savage Hulk defeated Skaar aswell. Don't see how Daken can win.

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unfortunately skaar is not his father, daken gets a beat down from hulk


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If Hulk is in the pheromone range from the start, then MC Daken can win.


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If Hulk is in the pheromone range from the start, then MC Daken can win.
So if Hulk hits w/ Daken pheromone, what would be precisely that Daken wins?


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Daken could make it seem as if he disappeared and stab him in the head from behind.


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Daken could make it seem as if he disappeared and stab him in the head from behind.


I don't think that would work seeing as how, Wolverine with admantium claws cant get Hulks hide enough to do REAL damage i.e. wwh/x-men. Daken gets crushed under Hulks foot or backhanded in half everytime without an admantium skeleton to keep him together.


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Daken could make it seem as if he disappeared and stab him in the head from behind.


True.

For the people arguing Hulk just Thunderclaps for a win every time, do you also side with the "speedblitz 10/10" arguments? Or do you usually try and argue how it goes down in comics?

If you usually argue for comic showings, it's only fair to point out Hulk rarely ends a fight with a Thunderclap.. More often than not, he'll resort to various melee attacks, like he does against Wolverine.

That would give Daken fair odds, since though he's no Spidey, he's more than quick and agile enough to avoid being hit. And while even a grazing hit from Hulk will mess him up, Daken has a lot of options for crippling Hulk as well.. He could blind him, like Wolverine did to Rulk. He could rip into his arms, like Daken did to Skaar. He could gut him, like Wolverine did to Namor...

1 vs 1 in melee, he has fair odds..

And while not relevant to this fight, if you put him in a group setting, with other characters to run support, he may be one of the best anti Hulk characters in comics.

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I don't think that would work seeing as how, Wolverine with admantium claws cant get Hulks hide enough to do REAL damage i.e. wwh/x-men. Daken gets crushed under Hulks foot or backhanded in half everytime without an admantium skeleton to keep him together.


Muramasa blades are not adamantium. They don't "cut" things. They splice matter on molecular level, they are magic stick out tongue


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It was explained in one of the early issues of Wolverine: Origins.

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1 vs 1 in melee, he has fair odds..
lol

i've yet to see hulk's bones being cut, and even then, well....

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he can heal from even that damage

bye daken smile


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Muramasa claws prevent from healing, bye Banner stick out tongue


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you missed the point

hulk will eventually heal, but daken will only have a pissed off hulk on his hands that can not only survive that type of trauma, but continue to fight fiercely, and as his fight with wolverine went hulk wanted wolverine to get close enough to grab him.


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Muramasa blades are not adamantium. They don't "cut" things. They splice matter on molecular level, they are magic stick out tongue


Even then how long are the blades? It's doubtful that they could even make it through to his skull if they come into contact with his thick head or to his heart and that is a direct full force stab, which would be necessary seeing as little slashes wont do that much. And to make matters worse he would have to come into hulks reach to perform these maneuvers the former "deep stab" of which will get him caught if it last any longer than half a second. And being caught just one time in hulks grip will completely crush his arms into an applesauce consistency rendering them unusable or even ripped of leading to Daken bleeding to death very quickly. This combined with hulks own super human reflexes gives Hulk the win 10/10 IMO.


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True.

For the people arguing Hulk just Thunderclaps for a win every time, do you also side with the "speedblitz 10/10" arguments? Or do you usually try and argue how it goes down in comics?

If you usually argue for comic showings, it's only fair to point out Hulk rarely ends a fight with a Thunderclap.. More often than not, he'll resort to various melee attacks, like he does against Wolverine.

That would give Daken fair odds, since though he's no Spidey, he's more than quick and agile enough to avoid being hit. And while even a grazing hit from Hulk will mess him up, Daken has a lot of options for crippling Hulk as well.. He could blind him, like Wolverine did to Rulk. He could rip into his arms, like Daken did to Skaar. He could gut him, like Wolverine did to Namor...

1 vs 1 in melee, he has fair odds..

And while not relevant to this fight, if you put him in a group setting, with other characters to run support, he may be one of the best anti Hulk characters in comics.


Wasn't you the main one screaming the speed blitz 10/10. Now you are trying to change things to suit your argument.

Hulk thunderclaps 10/10.


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you missed the point

hulk will eventually heal, but daken will only have a pissed off hulk on his hands that can not only survive that type of trauma, but continue to fight fiercely, and as his fight with wolverine went hulk wanted wolverine to get close enough to grab him.


He won't heal for at least an entire day if not more. More than long enough to get finished off


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you missed the point

hulk will eventually heal, but daken will only have a pissed off hulk on his hands that can not only survive that type of trauma, but continue to fight fiercely, and as his fight with wolverine went hulk wanted wolverine to get close enough to grab him.


Doesn't matter. KO = win. And we don't know if he'd be able to recover from that.

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Even then how long are the blades? It's doubtful that they could even make it through to his skull if they come into contact with his thick head or to his heart and that is a direct full force stab, which would be necessary seeing as little slashes wont do that much. And to make matters worse he would have to come into hulks reach to perform these maneuvers the former "deep stab" of which will get him caught if it last any longer than half a second. And being caught just one time in hulks grip will completely crush his arms into an applesauce consistency rendering them unusable or even ripped of leading to Daken bleeding to death very quickly. This combined with hulks own super human reflexes gives Hulk the win 10/10 IMO.


One foot long. They can easily reach the brain.

Like I said, Daken would use pheromones. Making Hulk compelely unaware of him appearing behind his back.


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