I would think so. Krona (With a small sample of Nekron's power) was owning Guardians. And this was when they were respected. He also owned a Guardian just by touching them.
Well in the event that the MAO try that, I really see no reason as to why nekron wont reverse it as well. However, I doubt that death would have been unable to achieve what she did without the ritual. The way I read it, it seemed as if the MAO needed the ritual to destroy her, and not the other way around. I believe that her absence was what allowed them to take over the universe, and that her return was what weakened them.
Nekron can have the same effect, as he is at his core, another for of death. Also, I re-read Thanos imperative, and cancerverse colossus, cancerverse venom, among others were killed outside of their universe by beings like the annihilators. I don't think that their immortality extends completely beyond their cancerverse. It was stated by Ronin on page 11 of issue #1 of Thanos Imperative:
" They can absorb six or seven times what we would consider lethal force before perishing."
So they can die in our universe, it just has to be six or seven times the damage.
I don't see why he would have to worry about both. The Galactus engine would be a huge problem were it not linked to the MAO, but as far as I can see, if Nekron or one of his avatars gets to Lord Mar-Vell, the battle apparently gets a little more difficult for the mao.
They could try to convert others through necropsy, but that would take way too long. However, all it takes for nekron to convert them to his side is pretty much just the word "RISE."
Yeah the Galactus engine was a boss, and one thing that I never understood... weren't Tenebrous and Aegis supposed to be dead lol? Continuity error! But seriously though, the engine is a big problem, but like I said, if Lord Marvel goes, so does it. However, it will take out a crap-ton of Bl's before that and I'd like to see what a battle between it and BL Specter would be like.
Agreed. To be honest, I could see this going either way as well. Both sides have really good chances of winning, and extremely powerful players.
Yeah, just going by what we've seen on panel, most of the BL's on DC's side all have their feats prior to being BL, along with being indestructible barring white light.
However, most of the cancerverse beings are essentially featless, except for the fact that we know that in a neutral setting it takes 6-7 times what it would take to kill them normally. They have the Galactus engine, The Many Angled Ones, and a universe's worth of beings with a fairly decent hf. So that is still a pretty beastly line-up.
The Black Lanterns have Nekron, Specter, and ST among other powerful players for certain. However, I don't know if this is anyone who has every been a BL for any period of time, so I don't know if Prime would be included. I'd have to check with "Id". But with a nigh-infinite supply of Black rings and beings on their team that can't die, and will constantly have their ranks strengthened every second, the edge would probably go to the BL's imo. I don't think that it will be easy for either side though, and that's my point.
Good scan, i read the entire arc but i just noticed this now (unrelated to this thread), but there is a way to kill Thanos. :-)
In regards to this thread, BL win. You don't have to be dead for nekron to take you. How many marvel characters have died and came back? they will be in his service as well.
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Even so, the elements needed to beat the Black Lanterns are still present. After all they are the champions of life. A perverse form of life, but life none the less. If we apply the laws of equivalency, The Black Lanterns may die by the hands of the Cancer-People no different than how the White Lantern corps dropped them.
I dressage, Cancerverse can only be one-shotted if the Mar-Vell is killed in the actual ritual. Its Black Hand the posses a problem. If Black Hand is revived, it servers Nekron connection to the real world, banished back to its dimension. If Black Hand forgoes the ritual, it will kill its abstract concept of death.
Anti-Montior was a non factor. He was held against his will, and retaliated the moment he was set free. That and his purpose is to power its BL Corps, serving as its power source to its Central Battery. Remove him, and there is no power source to fuel the Black Corps. (please log in to view the image)
Hard to tell, but Nekron being somewhat of an abstact of Death is a key factor here.
If he can kill Cancerverse beings the same way as Thanos, then I'd be more inclined to give this to the Black Lanterns. Otherwise it's a stalemate without knowing more about the Many Angled Ones and the other abstracts behind the Galactus Engine.
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Hmm, good point. Howver, my first point was that if they did perform the ritual (which they probably would because Nekron is Death and BH is his avatar), then Nekron could reverse it because he is a death abstract just like marvel's. However, unlike marvel death, he is in every BL and has the ability to become any one of them whenever he wants apparently.
I have trouble seeing that, as the Black Lanterns are killed by white light. White light is made by combining all the colors of the emotional spectrum. No such spectrum exists in any of their power sets, in fact it has been shown that only multiple ring users can deliver permanent death to a BL. The only other case of this happening is when creatures that are linked to the white light entity in some way and innately radiate white light project it under special circumstances and kill the BL, like in the case of Dove. So because the energy required to defeat them is so obscure and essentially not present, I don't believe that anyone short of the abstract players can deliver permanent death to the BL for that very reason, and their [the Black Lanterns] numbers will continue to grow with every cancerverse being to which they deliver temporary death.
The first time with willing participants, yes. However, keep in mind, all BL are an extension of Nekron, and thus essentially mind-controlled by him, and I doubt that he will willingly become a part of "the invaders" as he calls all living things.
Which would mean that Black Hand would have to be alive in order to die in the ritual, which he isn't. So no dead avatar, no dead (killed) death imo.
However, like I said, when Mar-Vell started the Necropsy, he obtained the permission of those around him, and they were converted, he or the MOA will not be able to revive BH unless he wants to be revived, which he really doesn't. The only reason why it worked on him before was because of a combination of the WL entity and the WL itself. I believe that the BL have the edge because while the cancerverse beings can be killed (albeit temporarily, or permanently if you have the time), the BL cannot be killed because they are already dead, they cannot be destroyed barring an abstract entity or white light, and they cannot be brought back unless they choose to be apparently, and they are mind-controlled by Nekron as I said before. So again, it will be a tooth and nail battle to the death (no pun intended ) for either side, but I think that the BL have a slight edge.
Nekron is a Death/Oblivion universal (minimum) level abstract. He cripples them like Death did. He doesn't even need the BL Corps to do it, they are just the icing on the cake.
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) for either side, but I think that the BL have a slight edge.
