Mr Master
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by janus77
Galactus wins instantly with the UN.
Galactus at "Full Power" (sans UN) would give Abraxas a good fight, imo, but still lose every time.
Abraxas would slaughter regular (Odin headbutt) Galactus without even having to lift his hand.
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Jan 22nd, 2012 07:27 PM
Mr Master
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
Where do I begin with this??
Lets start here from the beginning and work our way to the end.
Before I I start here and work the rest, I can't tell where your info is coming from,
it's either you're just making stuff up and getting a giggle out of it or
you're playing the ol' 'let's debate without knowing what the hell we're talking about' game.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
It is not my persoonal rendition of what happened,
its just what happened in the comic...
It's your persoonal rendition of what happened,
it's not what happened in the comic.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
He had an encounter with Namorita while searching for Valeria and Franklin,
he was their himself!!
This is about the only thing you posted that sorta relates to the truth.
Actually though, he never needed to encounter Namorita to kill her.
In fact, he killed her without even trying, he wasn't even the room,
heck, he didn't even care to find her there dead.
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But this is a minor issue,
the rest of your post is really where your whole argument is based on fallacies.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
Surfer died from the small fraction of power that was Abraxas's,
Reed said it was microbiotic and a wraith, giving the appearancee he was there,
but was just to taunt and warn them!
Yea, that was Abraxas' power being applied from UniverseS away.
Abraxas was literally controlling everything there from UniverseS away .
From the speed and trajectory of the Galactus head:
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To the creature army that attacked the heroes,
to the microbiotic particles that made up the mist and goo which incinerated Surfer
to the Alternate Universes merging,
to Uatu getting mind wiped and then comatose, even getting half his emblem taken.
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Heck, concerning the microbiotic particles,
Abraxas' power being willed at specific targets across UniverseS is further proven here:
Reed handles the microbiotic particles and they don't hurt him at all:
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But the microbiotic particles (a fraction of Abraxas' power)
are consciously being controlled by Abraxas, since well, it's his power after all.
After going for Uatu's comatose body,
Abraxas specifically attacks Surfer (via the mist/particles) and incinerates him.
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So I suppose you agree that Abraxas killed Surfer,
wiped Uatu's memory and comatose him as well,
and was also merging Alternates
... all from so far away from the 616 Reality Abraxas needed a navigation beacon to get there.
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Jan 22nd, 2012 09:28 PM
Mr Master
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
Dealing with Uatu I'll fill you in with that in a few..
You're going to "fill me in?" ... LOL ... You got jokes.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
was disoriented and then nearly comatose
because of the Galactus Head that was causing a disturbance in the space-time continuum!!!
False!
The Galactus head had absolutely nothing to do with Uatu getting mind swiped
or the Multiversal space-time continuum being upset.
Love the way you just made that up.
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On Panel, Abraxas was phukin up "ALL Eternity " (Multiversal Space-time Continuum)
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
By the way he was acting of course, or have you not see his facial expressions while Reed was in possession of the UN??
IF he could have gotten out of that situation he would have!!
If Abraxas would've gotten out of that situation then the story can't end.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
You don't have to tell me what the UN is, I already know.
I would say he could try to will it out of Reed's hands but thats the problem MM,
its IN Reeds hands NOT Abraxas's hands! It makes no sense at all that Abraxas
would try to will it out of Reeds hands! It is an object until used yes but it was an
object that Reed was holding close to him and wouldn't let go!
How can it not make sense for Abraxas to take the UN from Reed,
or to simply think Reed dead, or whatever other option to stop Reed.
What the hell are you talking about Kev?
You think Reed's grip > Abraxas' power?
Goodness, I hope not.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
Uatu the Watcher was disoriented and then nearly comatose because of the
Galactus Head that was causing a disturbance in the space-time continuum !!!
Abraxas did not attack him at the moon until later, with the Silver Surfer,
Moondragon, Quasar, Captain Marvel and the Fantastic Four battling his cadra.
False again!
Nearly two entire issues before Abraxas appears in 616,
he's already wiped away Uatu's memory, stolen his emblem and further comatose him later:
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If there's any doubt Abraxas did this (under his own power) BEFORE he entered 616:
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
I didn't see him fold any universe just by approaching them
Perhaps you should read the story then,
or read up on the character and see what he is in Marvel.
Basically the most dangerous and powerful Conceptual entity in Marvel.
Or rather,
can you explain how the Multiverse was shifting violently like the ocean on a sand castle,
or how alternate Universes were merging with each other and 616?
Please don't come back with the ridiculous "Galactus head" bull shit.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
he killed a bunch of no name Galactus's which I'm sure was powerful but we don't
know how powerful,
this merged those realities with the 616 Earth!!!
"no name Galactuses" huh? ...
I remember a no name Galactus where the LT's help was needed to erase him from existence.
That aside,
wait, so you think Abraxas was merging Realities by killing Alternate Galactuses?
You really did come into this debate with me without thinking this through.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by kevdude
In the end the FF found the UN and realigned the multiverse,
and the first Galactus 616 seemed to not care that Abraxas was right next to him
and he called him nothing!! Take it for what you will (which I'm sure you will).
Yea, Abraxas was "nothing" ...
Galactus was confident because the UN
which he knows can stop Abraxas was right in front of him,
and evidently so,
for Galactus calls Abraxas "nothing" while summoning the UN to his hands.
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Jan 22nd, 2012 09:28 PM
guy222
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maybe the dark man returns
remember galactus keeps him at bay
i would give odds to the celestials over abraxas
listen to guy222 according to the many ppl i have tweeted editors in chief...editors....writers celestials >>> galactus there's ur winner of galactus vs celestials
simple friends just tweet or as a friend has said for many years write marvel
and abraxas ftw
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Jan 24th, 2012 10:01 PM
the Darkone
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Celestials would get butt raped also!!!
Jan 25th, 2012 01:01 AM
kevdude
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by guy222
maybe the dark man returns
remember galactus keeps him at bay
i would give odds to the celestials over abraxas
listen to guy222 according to the many ppl i have tweeted editors in chief...editors....writers celestials >>> galactus there's ur winner of galactus vs celestials
simple friends just tweet or as a friend has said for many years write marvel
and abraxas ftw
Where have you heard about him returning Guy??
Going to have to agree to disagree with you MM on some of these things! Take care.
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