Uh-huh. And how many of those people did something more than run and scream (thus giving away their location) and maybe hide behind a tree. Rambo can run faster, and won't lose his cool like the kids do. That would be enough to evade Jason but then you add in his knowledge of tactics, camouflage, traps, weapons and everything else he learned in the military and put to practice in Vietnam and Jason might as well be hunting a ghost. Face it, Rambo is a far superior hunter and killer.
Freddy didn't toy with Jason, he was scared shitless the moment he realized he was in the real world facing Jason. It was a pretty even fight overall. He showed no superhuman abilities except maybe pain tolerance, but I'd chalk that up to his horrible childhood and insanity. And why wouldn't Rambo use those gas tanks? If they are still there, he can use them if he wants.
Rambo doesn't need to know shit about Jason to drown him. Like I said, if he runs out of other options (doubtful) he would probably try this, and if some shithead like Tommy could do it, Rambo will do it with ease.
Luckily they're not in limited confines so no problem for Rambo here. Also, Jason could have killed her at one point but was interrupted by the black guy from Spartacus. She wasn't that tough, she simply had guns, if Rambo was armed he'd waste her.
-Jason faced people hiding in houses. He walked passed but was just hiding to kill his next victim. I'm almost ready to start watching the lot again. And Rambo is not superior in hunting. Jason tracked down kids in New York no matter where they ran. He's a bloodhound.
-Of course he was scared. He was facing Jason. John will not! use the same methods of battle Freddy did. Lets be realistic.
-YES HE DOES! By the time Rambo stumbles upon the whole drown him in the lake theory the fight would've well and truly been over. This is the worse point! Rambo will not repeat the drowning takedown feat. the odds are a million to one.
-Rambo with a knife (and any barnyard tools) will die in a heartbeat against the cyborg. Second Cyborg Jason was simply a technorganic beast by the second fight.
Yes. Zombie is what I've been using and he will win this.
Ok, houses. Big deal. Jason could track them in the New York because they were constantly drawing attention to themselves. Rambo would have killed them before they were off the boat. There's absolutely no way Jason is a better hunter than Rambo. His intelligence, skill, experience, body count (in less than half the movies Jason has) and class of opponents puts Rambo in another league entirely. Watch the Friday movies again, I just finished re-watching them a week ago. I love Jason but he is up against an opponent that negates his every advantage.
What tactics? Freddy's only tactics was the use of those gas tanks and the rods, everything else was just slashing away at Jason. Rambo will outperform Freddy.
Part VI disagrees with you.
I said if Rambo was armed. I meant with a firearm.
-He tracked the main girl while she was captured by junkies and pumped full of heroin. He still found em.
-Rambo ain't slicing gas cannisters with his machete.
-Nah it ain't happening.
-And I agreed earlier. Armed to the teeth Rambo wins a forum fight. But considering the OP, under the same situation in Jason X Rambo is killed in a heartbeat.
Not like they took her far away, Rambo would have found her too. And even if he couldn't that doesn't negate everything else I've said. Jason hunts kids, Rambo hunts soldiers.
He doesn't have to, he could just cut the valve like Freddy did. But that's not my point. My point is if Freddy can get up close and personal and carve Jason up using nothing more than his speed, skill and a blade than Rambo will do even better.
It already did. Twice with the undead father but I don't count that.
I didn't disagree. Fortunately for Rambo, he is up against an inferior opponent in an open terrain.
-Rambo could not mimic Jason's hunting feats ala New York.
-Freddy did some awesome fighting moves against Jason. But Jason still punched him hard enough to fly 20 mtrs! Such a punch and Rambo ain't getting back up. Such a punch and you have lots of broken ribs. Jason could just hold on and snap Rambo like a twig anyways. The scene where Freedy launches gas cannisters then appears behind Jason up a 20 mtr scaffold with only access being the ramp behind where Jason landed proves Freddy still has teleportation skills.....or mad agility. once Rambo's traps fail Rambo is done for.
-I'm Not Arguing That If Rambo Fought Jason In The Water With A Chain That It Would'nt Result In Jason Going Into Hibernation! My argument is that the odds of Rambo stumbling upon such a method is based on luck. He has no knowledge of the weakness. You argue that Rambo has ground control yet you also reckon it's fate that he'll sacrifice his momentum on a whim by taking on Jason in the lake. Not happening.
-You stated yourself Rambo will make traps. None of the traps in First Blood will stop Jason. You also stated that once Rambo sees that Jason is no normal man he would have to re-evaluate the situation. Rambo hasn't got time to run/hide/make traps anymore. Once Jason has your scent you have to eventually face him. And Freddy showed awesome fighting skills + knives and it didn't work out for him. Before the final did you see how far that Destiny's Child chick flew with one hit? I reckon Freddy would beat Rambo as well.
I'm pretty sure anyone could mimic Jason's so called hunting feats, because they mostly consist of tracking running and screaming teenagers.
Jason will not put down Rambo, a man who has been shot in the leg by a machine gun (Rambo 3) and in the shoulder (Rambo 4) and kept on fighting with one shot. Rambo heals himself with gunpowder, Jason won't take him out with that one hit, especially if Freddy can take that shot. If Freddy had superhuman durability Lori wouldn't have been able to chop off his head with her girly swipe, nor would his daughter have been able to brake his fingers. Not that it matters because he won't get tagged by Jason. And that doesn't prove Freddy could teleport, all it proves is Jason is slow as dirt.
Weakens? Everyone dies by drowning, there's no reason Rambo wouldn't try to drown him if wants. I'm not saying it's what he'll do but it's an option. Jason is so slow that Rambo can afford to dick around.
Yeah, I never argued that First Blood traps will stop him but they will slow him down. He's got plenty of time, I'm pretty sure anyone who isn't in a wheelchair can avoid Jason at least for a few hours. Add in Rambo's skill and experience and Jason will never find him unless Rambo wants him too. No way would Freddy beat Rambo, Freddy was pwned by his daughter for ****'s sake.
Rambo has twice the kill count in half as many movies. Not to mention Rambo kills soldiers while Jason mostly kills drunk teens. Rambo is the superior killing machine.
Jason never faced someone who is trained to kill and survive in a jungle. In fact, every victim just stood there, screaming like, Ahhhhhh!! Once Rambo figures out Jason is an undead. Next thing he will do is chop Jason's 2 hands thus Jason has to revert in using his feet to weild his machete.
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-Nah he tracked kids trying there hardest to survive in New York city. And killed em. Rambo would've lost most in due time. Jason is a bloodhound. Too bad.
-You can't compare Rambo's soak feats to Jasons. That's madness. I don't care if he took a bullet. Can he take a punch that sent a woman flying at burst speeds into a tree? that rendered her dead on impact. Literally crunched her body against the tree so hard she appeared to stick to it? His bones woul crunch.
-Rambo won't attempt to somehow push Jason into the aparent nearby lake and drown him with a convenient chain! Not happening in a forum fight.
-Using the fact that Freddy's sister could kill him is irrelevent. She was born for it. Just like Jason's sister being able to kill him. Rambo doesn't have such advantages.
-Jason is the superior killing machine. Rambo wouldve died in Jason X, easily.
Jason would've killed everyone in John Rambo. One way or another.
Trying their hardest = running in a straight line? I would have caught them too.
I'm not comparing him to Jason, I'm just pointing out that Rambo wouldn't be killed in one hit. Jason is so slow he wouldn't get hit anyway.
Why the **** not?
It was his daughter, not his sister. And she wasn't born for shit. When she was born he was just an average, everyday psycho. She had no superhuman abilities, or any kind of special destiny. How did you even come up with that?
John would have pinched one of the rifles from the soldiers and then he would have wrecked everyone on the ship within minutes.
On the other hand, Jason would have been annihilated in the final battle of Rambo 4, there's nothing he can do against 100s of enemy soldiers with AK-47s, not to mention the 50 cal. machine guns or the flamethrowers.
Jason is made to hunt dumb kids, Rambo was made by soldiers to kill other soldiers. There's no contest.
Up close, Jason would rip his arms off, and stick them up his nose. Tactically Rambo should take this, with relative ease, if he is given the chance to set up traps.
In the real world, yeah. But in slasher land where all victims are slow, stupid and loud it won't be a problem.
You're proof being what? Freddy surviving the hit? Are you serious? Jason could put him down in two-three body shots but he could take one.
Doesn't matter what Jason's sister did, Freddy's kid had no powers of her own.
Rambo would eat that robot alive, she's nowhere near him when it comes to weapon skills and battle tactics. Jason would get his head shot off in the first minute and then what? He won't do his demon heart trick unless he's exploded. Even then, somebody would have to be the host, and when they figure out what's happening (they will sooner or later), they'll stay away from the corpse and the demon worm. What then?
It's very relevant, Rambo simply plays in a higher league. Not to mention he never loses unlike Jason who regularly gets owned those kids.
-This is a forum fight. We look at the feats and facts. Your argument of plot developments in Friday the 13th films with teens running for their lives through in one case New York City and Jason still finding them because they are "being loud", doesn't retract the fact that Jason still found those kids and they were trying to be quiet. He finds them no matter where they go. It's a power accept it.
-Did you even watch that video? One average swing. And that chick FLEW at burst speed into a tree and died on impact. Such a casual attack. If Rambo survives a punch he'll have broken bones with it.
-I don't even no where we were at with this particular argument here.
-Where's your proof that his demon heart trick won't work under any circumstance? Jason dead body hypnotised a doctor to take his heart out and eat it. Becoming possessed. If Rambo has a knife. He can get a heart.
-Jason sucumbs to PIS. Rambo is PIS. In a forum fight all that crap goes out the window.
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Nonsense. They're easy to track, that's why Jason keeps finding them. It's that simple. Rambo is not easy to track. It will be extremely difficult for Jason and would take a long time if he can do it at all.
She was hit with the machete. Freddy survived a punch from Jason, and so did she. He backhanded her into a wall back in the cabin and she was unharmed. Jason can't put down Rambo with a single punch.
You brought up Jason's sister when I pointed out Freddy's daughter easily broke Freddy's hand.
He didn't do it when he had his head blown off in Jason X, the only time he did it was in part 9 when they blew up his whole body.
You could call it piss if it happened once or maybe twice but this happens all the time. It's not PIS.
They spent most of the time moving while he was right behind them. They would stop whenever they thought they lost him. Like in that bar. It's no wonder Jason could track them. Your entire argument lays on Part 8, where were his uber hunting skill in the other films?
Maybe, but it's irrelevant since we're talking about punches. I never denied Jason would kill Rambo if he tagged him with a solid hit from with the machete. He won't do it with a punch though.
Not in Freddy's case. She didn't have any powers.
Yeah right. It took a few minutes for those nanobots to kick in. Why didn't he possess them then?
No, it isn't. Jason is a retard at the end of the day. A supernatural retard, but still a retard.
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