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The problem with Strange is even at his bet
st, he still has poor durability compared to the other two.


Don't know why everyone thinks this. Even after punches from Juggs and Hulk. His durability is good but not often potrayed because he has state-of-the-art shields. No reason to believe he can't compete with beings whos standard defense is superhuman durability.


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Odin headbutt <<< Galactus standing still.

Surfer being less powerful than Galactus does not imply that he is less powerful than Odin, nevermind Thor smile.
Surfer has been oneshotted by Odin. Odin took on Galactus he's calmly dismissed the Surfer in the past.

Rune King Thor was more than Odin at his best.


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Based on their standard versions.

Strange>Thor>Surfer


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Re: dr.strange vs thor vs silver surfer

Dr. Strange summons the Vishantis. The End.
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Who is more powerful of the three (At each one's prime)?

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Dr. Strange summons the Vishantis. The End.

Surfer summons Galactus, the end of The Vishanti [/ thread]


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Pretty sure Galactus and Agamotto seemed to be peers. If so, the Vishanti as a whole would beat the World Eater.


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Pretty sure Galactus and Agamotto seemed to be peers. If so, the Vishanti as a whole would beat the World Eater.

pretty sure it wasn't a serious Galactus and he was very dismissive of Agamotto throughout the 'fight'.

Galactus being a little more serious means Galactus consuming your dimension (as Mephisto found out).


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pretty sure it wasn't a serious Galactus and he was very dismissive of Agamotto throughout the 'fight'.

Galactus being a little more serious means Galactus consuming your dimension (as Mephisto found out).


I definitely don't remember getting that impression.


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I definitely don't remember getting that impression.

Maybe worth looking at it again then?
Galactus didn't see Agamotto as anything more than a nuisance because of his weird manifestations. Only towards the end did he begin to take him more seriously.


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Definitely came out looking like peers to me, not really sure how you came to the conclusion that Galactus conclusively beats Agamotto much less the entire Vishanti. Especially since Agamotto might very well be the weakest of the group, IIRC Oshtur spawned him from her tears or something etc.


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Definitely came out looking like peers to me, not really sure how you came to the conclusion that Galactus conclusively beats Agamotto much less the entire Vishanti. Especially since Agamotto might very well be the weakest of the group, IIRC Oshtur spawned him from her tears or something etc. [/B]

That scan points out exactly why this 'fight' was nothing of the sort. Galactus was being dismissively arrogant, treating Agamotto's form as an indication of the 'threat level' and just eye-beaming the thing to smithereens.

If Galactus had been serious he would have consumed the 'world' that is Agamotto's dimension (notice, to Galactus it was but a mere world). He's done so to Mephisto's dimension, making Meph beg mercy and yield to Galactus' demands.

Being that Galactus wasn't serious and yet was still destroying Agamotto's dimension (and the source of Agamotto's powers), I see it as perfectly reasonable to assume that Agamotto's seriously outclassed.

On top of all that, there's the simple matter of the UN being Galactus' ultimate back-up plan. Something which I don't envisage him requiring against The Vishanti, but nonetheless something that is always a part of him and tips any scales whatsoever.


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Definitely came out looking like peers to me, not really sure how you came to the conclusion that Galactus conclusively beats Agamotto much less the entire Vishanti. Especially since Agamotto might very well be the weakest of the group, IIRC Oshtur spawned him from her tears or something etc.


Yes, Galactus underestimated him (At least for a portion of the fight) but that doesn't change the fact that the fight strongly implied comparable power. I still have no idea how you think Galactus can beat the Vishanti.

I'm not sure why you think the consumption of a realm is somehow this auto-win tactic. If it was within his capabilities, it'd increase his energy reserves but that's it. Mephisto called it quits because Galactus threatened to disrupt the order of his realm and the life of a single mortal wasn't worth it.

The Ultimate Nullifier is less relevant than the God Blast.


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That scan points out exactly why this 'fight' was nothing of the sort. Galactus was being dismissively arrogant, treating Agamotto's form as an indication of the 'threat level' and just eye-beaming the thing to smithereens.

If Galactus had been serious he would have consumed the 'world' that is Agamotto's dimension (notice, to Galactus it was but a mere world). He's done so to Mephisto's dimension, making Meph beg mercy and yield to Galactus' demands.

Being that Galactus wasn't serious and yet was still destroying Agamotto's dimension (and the source of Agamotto's powers), I see it as perfectly reasonable to assume that Agamotto's seriously outclassed.

On top of all that, there's the simple matter of the UN being Galactus' ultimate back-up plan. Something which I don't envisage him requiring against The Vishanti, but nonetheless something that is always a part of him and tips any scales whatsoever.


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Yes, Galactus underestimated him (At least for a portion of the fight) but that doesn't change the fact that the fight strongly implied comparable power. I still have no idea how you think Galactus can beat the Vishanti.

It states that Galactus was being dismissive of Agamotto, he never took Agamotto seriously at all. The damage that he was doing to Agamotto's realm was a result of a less than resolute offensive. To call that showing anything close to a tie or parity is to be charitable in the extreme towards Agamotto.

Galactus basically popped into his house, unannounced and unprepared, Agamotto was supposed to be all powerful within his realm and yet Galactus was basically blasting the place to bits. And if Galactus had decided to consume the realm, that would have been the end of whatever marginal annoyance Agamotto posed. Their powers reside within their realms, their artefacts are only that power bleeding out.

As for the Vishanti, Galactus has the far superior feats and fire-power and ability to consume all.


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I'm just going to agree to disagree here. I don't care enough to debate the point and from experience, we won't be reaching any compromise. Still can't believe you think Galactus would beat the Vishanti.

The powers of the Vishanti reside in their respective realms? Scan or reference issue.


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Vishanti's realms are seperate from the universe of Eternity and Death. The Realm of the Vishanti are part of Order and Chaos' universe of magic. In certain dimensions Galactus powers do not work as they normally do.

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The Entire Vishanti together will wipe Galactus. One Vishanti was already giving Galactus a hard time. Strange even admits Galactus is out of his range here.
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It states that Galactus was being dismissive of Agamotto, he never took Agamotto seriously at all. The damage that he was doing to Agamotto's realm was a result of a less than resolute offensive. To call that showing anything close to a tie or parity is to be charitable in the extreme towards Agamotto.

Galactus basically popped into his house, unannounced and unprepared, Agamotto was supposed to be all powerful within his realm and yet Galactus was basically blasting the place to bits. And if Galactus had decided to consume the realm, that would have been the end of whatever marginal annoyance Agamotto posed. Their powers reside within their realms, their artefacts are only that power bleeding out.

As for the Vishanti, Galactus has the far superior feats and fire-power and ability to consume all.

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Is the vishanti the most powerful beings that strange has invoked? What spells have the vishanti performed for him?

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