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abhilegend
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Didn't lex said it was going to become a continent? Any proof that it was just an island?
At some point it would grow that big yes, but even even in his plan he admits it will take time.

Comparison, seeing the yacht next to it, seeing Superman in comparison. Seeing the plane fly away.

It all points to it not being continent sized at all. Cause if it was continent size at the time those things would not have been visible to it when viewing its full size like most of those objects were.


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Oh I thought you were talking about Superman 1. I wasn't counting Superman Returns. Returns is a different continuity to 3 & 4, so if you count the Returns feat you cant count the moon feat.

Oh and for the record it was Returns that was the shitty movie stick out tongue

I never posted about a moon feat. confused
Save for the first two movies, other superman movies=.


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At some point it would grow that big yes, but even even in his plan he admits it will take time.

Comparison, seeing the yacht next to it, seeing Superman in comparison. Seeing the plane fly away.

It all points to it not being continent sized at all. Cause if it was continent size at the time those things would not have been visible to it when viewing its full size like most of those objects were.

Ok, but its still a ridiculous feat.


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Ok, but its still a ridiculous feat.
Oh I agree it was crazy. It makes him stronger than any of the marvel characters in terms of feats. although I do think Chris reeves Superman did move the moon so its a moot point.

But I just don't like when people call it a continent moving feat when it isn't even close.


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Ok, but its still a ridiculous feat.


If he can lift that with his powers being near depleted, I don't think he would have a problem lifting a continent at full strength.


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If he can lift that with him powers being near depleted, I don't think he would have a problem lifting a continent at full strength.
There is a huge difference between large island and Continent.

Also you seem to forget he did go get a recharge before he did the feat, and used the Earth's land to shield him from the K-Nite for a large portion of the feat.

Yes he he still had a piece in him but it also wasn't large.

So there isn't really any evidence to support the idea he was near depleted when he did the bulk of the feat. He probably wasn't at full go, but there is a large difference between near depleted and operating at 80-90%. There is also no evidence to support he was operating close to maximum either,

but based on previous examples if he was near depleted around K-Nite then that would mean he was basically human.

So I think he was still operating at a pretty high level and fairly close to maximum imo

Of course if you factor in the Reeves' movies then yeah I would say he was probably not close to 100% but most people view them as different movies and characters.


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There is a huge difference between large island and Continent.

Also you seem to forget he did go get a recharge before he did the feat, and used the Earth's land to shield him from the K-Nite for a large portion of the feat.

Yes he he still had a piece in him but it also wasn't large.

So there isn't really any evidence to support the idea he was near depleted when he did the bulk of the feat. He probably wasn't at full go, but there is a large difference between near depleted and operating at 80-90%. There is also no evidence to support he was operating close to maximum either,

but based on previous examples if he was near depleted around K-Nite then that would mean he was basically human.

So I think he was still operating at a pretty high level and fairly close to maximum imo

Of course if you factor in the Reeves' movies then yeah I would say he was probably not close to 100% but most people view them as different movies and characters.


You are forgetting. Him landing on that same rock that he lifted depleted him to the point that Lex was able to rock him with a solid punch. The island itself weakened him and weakened him significantly. He also got beat up and knocked near unconscious by 3 other humans. That rock weakened him...he basically pulled it off on pure "will power" and strength.

Then you have to remember, kryptonite was coming out of the side of the Rock...it was near his face during the time he lifted it.

80%...Naah, I would say about 30 to 40%...just enough to get the job done.


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You are forgetting. Him landing on that same rock that he lifted depleted him to the point that Lex was able to rock him with a solid punch. The island itself weakened him and weakened him significantly. He also got beat up and knocked near unconscious by 3 other humans. That rock weakened him...he basically pulled it off on pure "will power" and strength.

Then you have to remember, kryptonite was coming out of the side of the Rock...it was near his face during the time he lifted it.

80%...Naah, I would say about 30 to 40%...just enough to get the job done.
He was also got a full recharge from the sun as far as we can tell.

Like I said for the bulk of the feat he had a shield keeping him from the K-Nite. As far as I can remember the k-nite didn't show up till the tail end of the feat. That's when it started poking through as far as I can remember.

30-40% is still within reason to me.

That's still not near depleted. To me near near depleted means like less than 10%.

But the main point is that just because he wasn't at 100% for that island lifting feat does not equate to him being able to easily lift a continent if he was.


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He lifted a continent twice.


Twice in Bryan Singers continuity.

Once in the Superman 1-4 continuity.

But the latter also includes a moon shifting feat.

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Supes solos.
Not at all. The guy struggled with trucks and was hurt by manholes tossed at him. Thor is on another level in terms of formidability.


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Not at all. The guy struggled with trucks and was hurt by manholes tossed at him. Thor is on another level in terms of formidability.


What? Trouble with Trucks? When? We haven't seen any strength feats from Movie Thor so Im not sure where you're getting this other level stuff from.

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What? Trouble with Trucks? When? We haven't seen any strength feats from Movie Thor so Im not sure where you're getting this other level stuff from.


He shattered a large portion of the Jotunheim landscape and broke the Bifrost Bridge.


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At some point it would grow that big yes, but even even in his plan he admits it will take time.

Comparison, seeing the yacht next to it, seeing Superman in comparison. Seeing the plane fly away.

It all points to it not being continent sized at all. Cause if it was continent size at the time those things would not have been visible to it when viewing its full size like most of those objects were.


Good point.


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He shattered a large portion of the Jotunheim landscape and broke the Bifrost Bridge.


Striking feats. Not really on par with the power to move the moon and reverse time.

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Striking feats. Not really on par with the power to move the moon and reverse time.


Striking feats are pretty valid, at times more valid than pushing or moving something outside of combat related context. Superman reversing time was due to very special circumstances, and unless Thor, I don't know, kills Lois or something, I don't see Superman turning back time in a forum fight.


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He shattered a large portion of the Jotunheim landscape and broke the Bifrost Bridge.


We have no clue how difficult it is to destroy the Brifrost Bridge. Its unquantifiable. As for destroying the landscape it is impressive, but it did apear to be made only of ice. Superman's island lifting feat is far more impressive.

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He shattered a large portion of the Jotunheim landscape and broke the Bifrost Bridge.

When he charged mjolnir with lightning and struck the ground, right? What strength was required for destroying the bifrost bridge? Meh compared to the things superman did.


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