well that could be avoided by killing all of the zombies in the area before settling down for the night. Or luring them away with a couple sacrificial gremlins.
I know, i think critters vs normal gremlins would be in the critters favor but the genetically enhanced gremlins make it a stomp in the gremlins favor.
yeah i guess the Spiderlins could web the perimeter of my "hideout" so Zombies get caught up and never even reach us during the day. Then at night we go out an kill them.
Gremlins would be a pain in the ass. If you raised 1000 of them you would need to feed them you know. Or they would get uncontrollable especially during the rainy seasons. You would have a hard time gathering them up and ordering them to kill each other. They will destroy your lifestock without close observation. Well they would mess everything up without complete observation. Because when it rains the new gremlins wont be under your control. And that is a BAAAAAADDDDDDDD thing.
ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS ONE RAINY NIGHT AND YOU WILL HAVE A REAL PROBLEM ON YOUR HANDS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU SLEPT THROUGH IT.
Whereas with Crites one could rebuild a decent society. Gather 20 or so trustworthy survivors. Choose a nice open plain. Crites could chew through metal. They can chew down trees. And chew em into pillars and spit out the wood. Us survivors would build farms and shelters. Raise cows, chickens and horses. If you just had 300 or so they would make great clearers of the land.
And feed them some chickens every now and then will keep em happy or simply order them to eat each other plus eggs, you won't be able to do that with Gremlins. Now when you need them to patrol the landscape for zombies and general hostile humans they would be incredibly efficient. You have large Critters too you know. 7 ft tall Critters. Would make great fur for clothing.
Critters like to bundle together into balls very efficient. Very easy to micro manage. And none of the irritating noise and general tomfoolery the Gremlins get up too.
Giant Crites would probably be a good source of meat as well. And they grow quick.
You guys are thinking too much about walking the land like the characters in Walking Dead. With Crites you wouldn't need too! You could easily build a working fortified farm. Any zombies or humans who get try to invade your territory get eaten or rendered unconscious for interviewing.
I agree with juggerman, this isn't about who beats who. It's about which species would be best to survive the zombie apocalypse.
And the Critters win this in spades. Based on work efficiency, controllability and killing power.
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[QUOTE=13912801]Originally posted by the ninjak
If you can order crites to eat each other why not gremlins?
You have complete control of them, the thread wouldn't work unless you did.
I wouldn't allow any unsupervised gremlin making and if it did manage to happen i would have them immediately dealt with if they started to cause a uproar.
I wouldn't have to buld anything the electricity gremlin could light any house i want and i could order the gremlins to stockpile food and with a working refrigerator/freezer i could stockpile beef and pork for years.
Gremlins have you beat in both defensive, offensive and patrolling ability.
With gremlins i could light and fortify entire city's and make safe havens for large groups of people.
Gremlins have them beat in all of those areas except efficiency which can be taught.
-Because Gremlins aren't carnivores. Well not like the Crites. You could order them to kill each other though sure.
-Fair enough. I thought the species had to be ordered.
-How are you going to feed 10000 or more gremlins?
-That electric Gremlin ain't gonna last forever.
-No they don't. The mutated gremlins were genetic anomalies. When did they breed in the movie? And 10000 gremlins won't beat 1000 Crites in a fight. Even with the 3 mutant gremlins. Crites decimate planets. Gremlins never got beyond a town or building.
-You can't breed Electric Gremlins.
-You ain't going to teach Gremlins efficiency. Tomfoolery is their mindset. They're trouble makers at heart. You can tell em to do general things and they will do it but they be making trouble whilst doing it.
they will eat whatever i order them to eat and i will order them to like it too!
that only depends on if these zombies are like Dawn of the Dead zombies and leave animals alone. if not they can eat eachother and scavenge
it really can. especially considering it can pass thru/ hide in any electrical object. how hard would it be to keep a DS dry?
yes they do
doesnt mean they cant breed. their DNA was altered so and offspring they have will have similarly altered DNA. there was never any reason stated they they couldnt reproduce so ill just assume they can
humans can beat critters with the proper equipment im sure i could arm them well enough to take on just about anything. sorry but the critters really have no answer to the 3 mutants. how do they stop electricity? Gremlis are limited by their weakness to the sun tho. thats how they are beaten. if they were on a dark planet they would decimate
debatable. there could be a way
what if i say "do it without any nonsense" or something along those lines? they may want to act up but they cant if ordered not to
[QUOTE=13914002][i]Originally posted by the ninjak [/
If i remember correctly gremlins would eat whatever they got there hands on including meat.
The better question is how do you plan to feed a large number of crites when they never stop eating. and i wouldn't make nearly that many because they would be hard to feed.
iirc the spiderlin was getting ready to lay eggs before it died. your right it would only take 1 eletriclin to kill 1000 crites how you ask? by them not being able to hurt it and by it blowing shit up just by touching it.
This is because they have an obvious weakness and lack motivation to conquer their only goal is to have fun and cause mayhem.
Why would i need to? 1 electric gremlin is enough for lighting my own home. and it could be possible to breed them but it's not like i would need to.
If i can't teach gremlins efficiency then you can't teach crites not to eat everything in sight as that's pretty much there mindset and their eating machines at heart. i would rather have a bunch of moron slaves than slaves who are going to eat all my food and then probably eventually me.
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-Yeah but Gremlins looked disgusting on the inside. Not really good food.
-I would tell the not to eat until told to. Simple.
-Didn't know the SpiderLin was about to lay eggs. Nice one. And the electrical gremlin would be an incredible killer I'm not disagreeing with that. Tough to get out into the wilderness though. And didn't the Electric Gremlin destroy electrical appliances and wiring? Where the hell did he get his powersource from??? the building power reserves right? And what happens when their is no more powersource? Wouldn't he burn out eventually?
-True.
-You said you would use it to power cities. And supply power to large groups of people. Electric Gremlin needs to eat too. Electricity. What happens when there's no electricity left in the grid? The power stations are down.
-Lets just forget about this argument. The OP states they do whatever you command so lets keep it at that.
My argument of Crites breeding fast enough to feed themselves on themselves is still a good plan. I just don't see the Gremlins being all that happy eating themselves. They seemed repugnant inside.
[QUOTE=13914095][i]Originally posted by the ninjak [/i
Probably but i don't plan on him living forever anyway, and i wouldn't use him to power my city all of the time just until i cleared it out and got the electricity running normally again then he could die for all i care.
Maybe natural lighting im sure i could set up conditions so that he could feed.
It is a good plan but crites don't look like they have much meat on them at all. Be more like drinking each other, and i don't think that's what they always look like just when they're hit with sunlight.
One would be extremely comfortable with either of these species protecting them.
I still reckon though once the city grid goes down the Electrical Gremlin will be desperate for energy to eat. Solar panels in some home won't be enough. Nor will car batteries. And god that would make alot of noise. Every zombie in the city will pour in to get ya. Energy dissipates very quickly and the gremlin in the film had unlimited access to it. But in a city with no power or worse out in some field he may have only a minute to live. You could try a petrol power generator but he'd probably brake it. And you don't wanna be near it when that happens.
Just an idea. Best not get used to him being around for long. The bat and spiders will be more than enough. And unless you are some kind of genius engineer or the people you save are. I doubt you'll get the power generators back on line, not with the maintenance required. Maybe after a few years with education and manpower. But I doubt you'll have enouh time to save the Electric Gremlin.
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