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Originally posted by Digi
The truth to this question is that there aren't exact lines between the tiers, with the exceptions of HH/Trans/Skyafther, which we defined quite specifically (HH ended at Surfer, Skyfather began with Odin and his peers, Trans was everything in between). Everything else was up to a lot of interpretation and opinion.

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats why the use low skyfather
which probably would be transtier

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Trans tier is good enough.

Also. You.

Speaks for itself

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Originally posted by Harbinger
I'd throw Jesus Cable higher than low herald given his showing against Surfer. Terrax sounds about right, though.

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Originally posted by Reacting2
no holding back Jesus cable is High Herald

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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
That doesn't have the same effect when used against me...

It's like Corky using it against Hawking.

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Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Um, he made a good showing against surfer for him. But at the end of the day, Surfer (basically the archetype and namesake for "high herald") still owned him pretty easily and completely.

Maybe low-herald was unfair, but definitely not on surfer's tier.

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Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Um, he made a good showing against surfer for him. But at the end of the day, Surfer (basically the archetype and namesake for "high herald") still owned him pretty easily and completely.

Maybe low-herald was unfair, but definitely not on surfer's tier.

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Originally posted by Digi
Now you guys are beginning to see why the tiers thread was closed.

Or if you aren't, well, there's no helping you.

It helped create a shared vocabulary on the forums, which is nice. But expecting exactitude of any kind is stupid.

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Originally posted by carver9
I agree.

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Originally posted by carver9
I agree.

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Originally posted by Digi
I was dealing with it every day as a mod until I closed it.

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Originally posted by carver9
I don't think everyone knows this but he was holding back against Surfer.

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Originally posted by Digi
Everyone with their opinion destroys trying to create a "general" list for beginners, because the flaws become magnified to an absurd extent. One of the more unfortunate experiments on the forums, because I loved the idea in concept. I was dealing with it every day as a mod until I closed it.

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Originally posted by carver9
I honestly believe two respectable forum members should get together and create a tier thread and update it when necessary. Someone like Galan and Onedumb (two respectable people of my choice if I had to vote for the two)...two voted members (non biased). Its needed imo because it would help new members and it could be a guidance and assistance for preventing unnecessary threads.

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Originally posted by Digi
Well, again, good in theory. But there was more than one problem. For example, new members wouldn't look at it and would make threads anyway. Then someone trying to be helpful would start posting it in threads, which would take over the thread as people started to talk about everything that they thought was wrong with it. Anyone who didn't know better would think I made the list since I mod the place. So the result was that, almost daily, I was dealing with either insults and fighting over the list, PMs telling me what was wrong with the list or asking me to justify certain characters, and derailed threads that were usually lopsided to begin with. There was even a hate thread about it over on a rival comics board, that I had to create an account for just to calm things down to decrease the number of cross-forum rivalry warnings and bans I was issuing.

And that was when the tiers thread was read-only. When it was open for comments and suggestions, even when we tried to create rules for voting on characters, all hell broke loose. After a while, I was like, "Who is this helping?!" And the answer was, basically no one.

So when it comes up and people suggest bringing it back, I just laugh, because I'm in the unique position to see just how much it poisoned things.

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Originally posted by Mindset
Iron Man.

He is also the strongest.