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Originally posted by panthergod
my was utterly inferior to Priests TChalla. Couldn't touch him outside of BPs tactic to save his life.


I'll take your word on it, I'm not expert. But fair enough.

Panther would stomp Cage as well, that much I do know. thumb up


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even current versions luke stomps.
Hasn't Danny receive upgrades as well? Well before the whole new whole different Marvel crap...


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Hasn't Danny receive upgrades as well? Well before the whole new whole different Marvel crap...


Yessir.

And the fact is, in comic and under multiple writers, Danny > Cage.

The most credible writers being Priest and Bendis.

Priest being a black writer, who's known for legitimizing Black Panther (Whom he also had take quite the beating from Iron Fist, worse then Iron Man or Wolverine ever did..)

And of course Bendis is Cage's patron..


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And the fact is, in comic and under multiple writers, Danny > Cage.
How? Is by feats or statements?


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How? Is by feats or statements?


Feats.


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Feats.
Like what?


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One-shotting the Helicarrier.

Raping the Wrecking Crew.

Finishing Ragnarok.







Cdtm will give you 739 more feats. Go, cd. Make daddy stilt proud.


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So Danny has superior feats to Luke? I guess that's just enough to warrant Fist>Luke


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He's a far more versatile fighter with the superior striking power. Luke is a one-trick pony.


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Danny could probably "cure" Cage's steel hard skin, just like he healed Shang Chi's Spider virus or Matt Murdocks demon possession..


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So Danny has superior feats to Luke? I guess that's just enough to warrant Fist>Luke


Naw helicarrier is an outlier

Wrecking Crew is garbage

And Ragnarok was a team effort. Logan did the heavy lifting


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Naw helicarrier is an outlier

Wrecking Crew is garbage

And Ragnarok was a team effort. Logan did the heavy lifting
I disagree on the helicarrier feat being outlier. It seems to me that Danny only cause enough force for the entire carrier to breakdown. If he totally destroyed it with IF punch...then it's probably an outlier.

Yeaah i can agree with The Wrecking Crew even though they have fought Thor and Avengers before.

Can't remember much about his Ragnarok feat.


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Naw helicarrier is an outlier

Wrecking Crew is garbage

And Ragnarok was a team effort. Logan did the heavy lifting


Hah, outlier.

Claremont had him bust a city block in the 1980's. Immortal Iron Fist had the "make Hiroshima look like a sparkler" train feat.

Ostrander had him KO drunken mortal Herc (Mortal Herc is still > Cage.)

Priest had him KO Bres, a big elf who tossed around Thor.. Then around 10-15 years later, had him give Black Panther in his vibranium suit such a beating he developed an inoperable brain tumor that was going to kill him, in the same run where he (Or at least a future version of him) tanked Iron Man hits..


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I could go on and on..

Another 1980's Claremont feat, Cage and Danny vs robot mobsters.

Cage hits them. He hurts his hand, and doesn't make a dent.

Danny charges up the fist, and scraps three in one go.

Then there's the super sized war robot model that one shot KO'd Cage.

Full disclosure, ironically Claremont wrote Danny as unable to KO Cage with his strongest Iron Fist in a 1 vs 1. Go figure, but read between the lines and it's pretty obvious Claremont either could not or would not have Rand stomp.Cage in his own comic book, and their performance against the robots is his true opinion of their power levels..


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I disagree on the helicarrier feat being outlier. It seems to me that Danny only cause enough force for the entire carrier to breakdown. If he totally destroyed it with IF punch...then it's probably an outlier.

Yeaah i can agree with The Wrecking Crew even though they have fought Thor and Avengers before.

Can't remember much about his Ragnarok feat.


Ok

WC are up and down. They just arent that potent imo

Wolverine took it to Clor for serveral panels before getting zapped and a tag in by Cage who got trounced. IF got a spidey style cannonball special at the end. So its a shared feat.. Everyone else was useless

At cdtm yea sure but thatsba highlight reel not avg portrayal


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(Mortal Herc is still > Cage.)


Seriously doubting that, tbh.


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Maybe, but there isn't much to debate otherwise.

And like I said, the fact is when they do fight, Danny usually has the upper hand. It's been that way pretty solidly for the last decade. Remender, Bendis.. The second half of the Immortal Iron Fist series had Cage doing jack all to the Iron Fist killer, and getting brushed aside. It was Danny who literally punched his head off.

And in the 1980's you only really had one writer standing behind Cage (That was the primary writer of Power Man and Iron Fist, who wrote the worst half baked social justice stories cribbing elements from past stories by better writers..)


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Feats.
pretty sure that Luke has better feats than danny....


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Seriously doubting that, tbh.


He did some stuff pretty bad ass stuff against the new gods while mortal.


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