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the ninjak
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I'm drawing the "Dracula lastability whilst inside a Forum Arena" card here.

Drac stays mistform. There is no Sun in a Forum Arena so he doesn't need to sleep.
Not like he can sleep anyways because he has no home soil.

How long do you guys reckon Stark can stay conscious without food, water and sleep? big grin

Because Drac's dead and he doesn't need either.


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The only thing Stoker's Dracula can do in mist form is travel. So he would be forfeiting the round.


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Originally posted by the ninjak
I'm drawing the "Dracula lastability whilst inside a Forum Arena" card here.

Drac stays mistform. There is no Sun in a Forum Arena so he doesn't need to sleep.
Not like he can sleep anyways because he has no home soil.

How long do you guys reckon Stark can stay conscious without food, water and sleep? big grin

Because Drac's dead and he doesn't need either.
OK, Dracula loses 10/10.

Thank you for your input.


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The only thing Stoker's Dracula can do in mist form is travel. So he would be forfeiting the round.


Wrong...he beat a guy to death in mist form. He'll be trying it here.
Once he in demonform Drac realises he can't get through the armor, and when Tony gets a shot in he instantly turns into a flurry of rats. Then into mist to defeat his opponent.

Tony would be blasting the mist with repulsors. But to no avail.
Drac keeps up the relentless assault. Tony would get tired after a few days and fall unconscious. Drac wins.

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OK, Dracula loses 10/10.

Thank you for your input.


Well done. But no. Drac is a resourceful bastard. Especially in a Forum Arena environment.


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Wrong...he beat a guy to death in mist form. He'll be trying it here.

Tony would be blasting the mist with repulsors. But to no avail.
Drac keep up the relentless assault. Tony would get tired after a few days and fall unconscious. Drac wins.


Thought he changed back when he took out Renfield. Been some time since I've seen the film though.

But Tony isn't an idiot, he'd know the basic vampire lore. So he blast a hole in the arena's roof, waits until sunrise when Dracula is weaker; down his more powerful abilities and reverts to human form.


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Thought he changed back when he took out Renfield. Been some time since I've seen the film though.

But Tony isn't an idiot, he'd know the basic vampire lore. So he blast a hole in the arena's roof, waits until sunrise when Dracula is weaker; down his more powerful abilities and reverts to human form.


Nah he smashed Renfield against the cage to death whilst still in mistform.

And as I've been blabberin about above. This is the Forum Arena....No Sun!smile


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Where is this "There is no sun in a foum arena" shit coming from?


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And as I've been blabberin about above. This is the Forum Arena....No Sun!smile


Why Tony blasts a hole in said arena and lets in the sunlight.


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Yeah no way for him to stop the train w/o webs. But you gotta admit, insane "feat" to not get his feet ripped out as soon as he tried slow it down via the tracks. :-D

Well, didn't say Spidey would win. :-p just that I think Spidey's stronger. But out of curiosity, what "feat" has Cullen been able to perform that shows how much faster he is than Spidey?


Yeah, I'm giving him that. It was a crazy feat.

As for how Ed's faster, here.




Ed's fighting Felix, whose main power is just enhanced strength. Ed hasn't eaten for a long time during the course of this fight, and even one with no enhanced speed past the vamp norm and Ed being starving, they were still moving at blur speeds and far faster than anything or anyone Toby had to deal with.

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Spider-Man (Toby) can casually evade gunfire while swinging. Bullets > Twiboys


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Why Tony blasts a hole in said arena and lets in the sunlight.


I've PM'ed Imp. I thought this standard was for everywhere VS.

In the Comic vs Forum if no location for the battle is given the fight takes place in the Forum Arena.
A voided out ground resembling a football stadium like structure.


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I've PM'ed Imp. I thought this standard was for everywhere VS.

In the Comic vs Forum if no location for the battle is given the fight takes place in the Forum Arena.
A voided out ground resembling a football stadium like structure.


That just happens to have no sunlight?


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That just happens to have no sunlight?


I had debates on it in the past. People calling it a voided out arena. Anyways I'm gonna look into it.


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Spider-Man (Toby) can casually evade gunfire while swinging. Bullets > Twiboys


Yet he was getting punched out by Goblin and Doc Ock and Goblin Jr. and Venom and Sandman who are all < Bullets.

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So for Dracula to win you have to construct a forum arena where the limitations and rules on Dracula's powerset are ignored?

If I didn't know any better I'd say that was giving one character an unfair advantage.


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Yet he was getting punched out by Goblin and Doc Ock and Goblin Jr. and Venom and Sandman who are all < Bullets.


In that case, Edward is ridiculously slower than Spider-Man, when the vampires fight the wolfboys, they fight slow. Only thing the wolves do fast is run.


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Goblins and Venom are jut as fast as Spidey, Ock's arms are as fast as Spidey (And Ock apparently has superhuman durability lol), and Sandman is just a tank who can absorb Spidey's blows and hit harder than him.


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Even if you see it as slow, it's still faster than some of the people Spidey fought. Fact is, Vamps were seen moving so fast they became blurs. So it's obvious they have the capability to move that fast, Spidey never did and never fought anybody who could. I'm not saying he's slow as he's dodged some crazy stuff, but Ed's faster in a fight.

And Sandman who has no enhanced speed whatsoever, hit Spidey a bunch of times when he shouldn't have been able to.

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Yeah no way for him to stop the train w/o webs. But you gotta admit, insane "feat" to not get his feet ripped out as soon as he tried slow it down via the tracks. :-D

Well, didn't say Spidey would win. :-p just that I think Spidey's stronger. But out of curiosity, what "feat" has Cullen been able to perform that shows how much faster he is than Spidey?


Well Edward was able to stop a crashing van (car?) with just one hand. Not sure if that's a better strength feat.

As far as speed goes, all we have to go by with the movies is that the Vamps pretty much fight in fast forward. Spidey doesn't have super speed, he has super reflexes. Edward on the other hand DOES have super speed. Not sure how that translates, but I just see the vamp as stronger and faster. Not by much, but enough to garner the win.


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Even if you see it as slow, it's still faster than some of the people Spidey fought. Fact is, Vamps were seen moving so fast they became blurs. So it's obvious they have the capability to move that fast, Spidey never did and never fought anybody who could. I'm not saying he's slow as he's dodged some crazy stuff, but Ed's faster in a fight.

And Sandman who has no enhanced speed whatsoever, hit Spidey a bunch of times when he shouldn't have been able to.


Spider-Man's awareness and reaction-times are so fast that he can perceive the individual beats of a fly's wings. That was the purpose of Flash fight scene, to show us at what level this guy operates at.

So if we're using highest showings (which we should be) for both, Spider-Man can easily keep track of an react to Cullen, adding in his Spider-Sense is just an added bonus.


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