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What scene, the death or the Queen? The death was like that because Bill and Sam were putting all their hopes on this plan working, a plan they got from the Queen's 'maybe, maybe not' words.

It'd be nice if we actually saw Bill or Eric trying to kill her apart from the bite.
So despite everything we see not affect her and the words and implications of a character on how to defeat a maenad it still isn't enough. Unless it is in Hyrule it doesn't count for you people.


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>Implying BloodRain is a Zelda fanboy.

I've argued against him in more Zelda threads than I've argued against you, the difference is he knows a feat when it falls out of the sky, does a merry jig, and paints the word 'FEAT' on itself in giant, bold, easy to read lettering suitable for a kindergartener, unlike yourself, Quan.

Congratulations, even the detractors of the verse you hate so much are in awe of your wrongness.


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>Implying BloodRain is a Zelda fanboy.

I've argued against him in more Zelda threads than I've argued against you, the difference is he knows a feat when it falls out of the sky, does a merry jig, and paints the word 'FEAT' on itself in giant, bold, easy to read lettering suitable for a kindergartener, unlike yourself, Quan.

Congratulations, even the detractors of the verse you hate so much are in awe of your wrongness.
And I can tell when I have ripped open someone's *******. You complain in thread after thread making me the center of your universe. You are just another pathetic poster who is too afraid to face me. Either debate the characters or leave. I tire of your trolling.


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I really believe he will have knowledge since he did outrank his bride. Besides that he didn't always bite his victim first. He staked the leader of the Authority and slapped another loyalist's head off. He bit the faerie first because he was obsessed with drinking faerie blood.


I believe so too which makes me think he'd win more likely than not. But if he didn't i could see him losing. He chopped off a vamp's head true but this vampire was very old and powerful so killing him quickly was smart on Russell's part. I know the vamp wasn't on Russell's level but he was well superior to a human. I dunno how Russell would attack a human since i don't recall him ever doing so besides to feed or the one he staked after porking.


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>Implying BloodRain is a Zelda fanboy.

I've argued against him in more Zelda threads than I've argued against you, the difference is he knows a feat when it falls out of the sky, does a merry jig, and paints the word 'FEAT' on itself in giant, bold, easy to read lettering suitable for a kindergartener, unlike yourself, Quan.

Congratulations, even the detractors of the verse you hate so much are in awe of your wrongness.

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So despite everything we see not affect her and the words and implications of a character on how to defeat a maenad it still isn't enough. Unless it is in Hyrule it doesn't count for you people.

Defensive much? confused

Literally asking you to tell me those words in implications, because the Queen was the only one to say 'immortal' and the only thing shes resisted is a bullet.


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I believe so too which makes me think he'd win more likely than not. But if he didn't i could see him losing. He chopped off a vamp's head true but this vampire was very old and powerful so killing him quickly was smart on Russell's part. I know the vamp wasn't on Russell's level but he was well superior to a human. I dunno how Russell would attack a human since i don't recall him ever doing so besides to feed or the one he staked after porking.
He did so to simply shut him up. We see how beyond all of them he is. We see Russell talk down to the entire Authority and act like their combined strength is nothing to is because it wasn't. Russell needed to be taken down in numbers or by surprise because straight up he was the most powerful on the show we have seen thus far.


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Defensive much? confused

Literally asking you to tell me those words in implications, because the Queen was the only one to say 'immortal' and the only thing shes resisted is a bullet.
She resisted a bullet and a vampire attempting to drain her. We also have the Queen illustrating for the audience the means to beat her. This wasn't to trip the audience up.


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He did so to simply shut him up. We see how beyond all of them he is. We see Russell talk down to the entire Authority and act like their combined strength is nothing to is because it wasn't. Russell needed to be taken down in numbers or by surprise because straight up he was the most powerful on the show we have seen thus far.


Agreed but again we haven't (to my knowledge) seen him actually try to "fight" a human. A lot of vamps go for the blood drain as Bill did and if Russell does then he loses. If he doesn't he'll most likely stomp.


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Didn't somebody jump on Russell and try to stake him, and after shrugging him off into the ceiling, he proceeded to beat on him?

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That was Bill and after Russell shrugged him off someone else restrained Bill. Probably Eric or the chick that turned Bill. Russell just laughed since Bill was nothing to him


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Agreed but again we haven't (to my knowledge) seen him actually try to "fight" a human. A lot of vamps go for the blood drain as Bill did and if Russell does then he loses. If he doesn't he'll most likely stomp.
You already agreed he'd most likely know about her existence. You agree with me so just give up and lay down already.


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You need help.


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You need help.
Get back to the topic. You agree in all likelihood he'd know so you agree Russell wins.


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Do you have proof that he knows?


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Do you have proof that he knows?
We don't have proof he doesn't know. You yourself said logically he should know and besides all that he doesn't always bite first anyway.


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Logically he should know what a Marnad is. Doesn't mean he'd know that she was one. You know what a vampire is/should be but if you actually saw one you might not know that's what is was. Did she smell different to vampires than normal humans did? I don't recall.


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Logically he should know what a Marnad is. Doesn't mean he'd know that she was one. You know what a vampire is/should be but if you actually saw one you might not know that's what is was. Did she smell different to vampires than normal humans did? I don't recall.
I don't remember if she smelled differently. I should youtube the Bill encounter with her again. To me out of all the characters of all five seasons Russell was the biggest and baddest. I think you agree.


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If that's what you are trying to prove here then yes Russell was indeed the biggest single threat and the most fun to watch. However logically the witches could have overcome him easily with magic. Not in a forum fight tho.


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If that's what you are trying to prove here then yes Russell was indeed the biggest single threat and the most fun to watch. However logically the witches could have overcome him easily with magic. Not in a forum fight tho.
The vampires aren't unbeatable but in terms of overall formidability. They are at the top of the food chain. Through prep and with help the witches can pose a threat. .


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She resisted a bullet and a vampire attempting to drain her. We also have the Queen illustrating for the audience the means to beat her. This wasn't to trip the audience up.


As Sophie said, "Of course you were [poisoned], we can only drink human blood and she's no longer remotely human." It wasn't resisting. The bullet I'll give you but deflecting a bullet certainly doesn't account for immortality.

And as she says to Eric, "I gave William Compton a few bits of hand-me-down folklore we've accumulated over the centuries, but who knows if it's gospel or gorilla shit." when talking about the immortality and killing method she spoke to him about.


Either she was right and listing the only method she knows about, or she was wrong. Thats hardly confirmation.


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