Just looked and the only thing i can find is the scene where Will stabs Jones from behind and Jones round house kicks him. It wasn't an actual duel. If your talking about a different scene lemme know but so far there isn't anything putting either of these two above Barbossa in terms of skill. But honestly either of thses two can kill Barbossa by using their "powers"
Yeah the sword was what i was talking about but it can control other ships as well. Barbossa told Jack that the rope from his own ship tied him up and that he had to cut his leg off to escape.
The main reason is because iirc the only time Barbossa encountered Black Beard before poisoning the sword was when Black Beard took the Pearl. All Barbossa knew about the guy was the same legends everyone knew and he knew he could control objects(dunno if he was aware the extent). He never had any real reason to suspect BB's skills were above his since he hadn't actually fought him yet or seen him fight. And knowingBBe can use objcts to "fight" for him Barbossa might only get one shot so he wanted to ensure it's success.
Add into that the fact that BB had zombies to fight for him as well and that Barbossa in all likely hood was not at his best seeing as how he lost a leg the next encounter may not have ever come down to an actual sword fight. He needed any and all advantages he could gather in case he had even the slightest chance to even nick BB before possibly becoming entangled again or overcome by minions.
In all likely hood Jones had much more time to become efficient and skilled while on a peg leg. I don't recall how much time passed for Barbossa but iirc he wasn't fully used to it yet and it still hindered him greatly
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So to make a long story short you really like Barbossa. The guy knew he'd need to cheat to beat him. Bottom line. He met him before and knew he wasn't as good with a sword as Blackbeard.
Yeah i do like Barbossa but i like Jones more. I think Blackbeard sucks but that's mostly because i think the 4th film sucks. Basically you are tring to claim Barbossa needed to poison his sword cuz he knew Blackbeard was better but he had no way of knowing that. All he really knew at the time was he could control shit with the sword.
So is there any other reason you think Blackbeard is superior besides Barbossa stacking the deck against an opponent whose skill level he's completely unaware of?
He just lost his leg. He had every reason to stack the deck in his favor seeing as how he was limited in a way he hasn't been before. beard only won the fight due to Bossa's handicap. I assumed this was pre peg Bossa. If it is post then yeah he may not be able to hang in a pure duel.
He was hobbling around and on a crutch. It severly limited his movements. Watch how he fought Jack in 1. They both were running and jumping all thru the cave. Watch his fight at the end of 3. He was moving about fighting multiple opponents while marrying Turner and Swan. In 4 he was very still in comparison. He relied heavily on the crutch. Once it was taken away he could barely stand.
Besides beating a weakened Barbossa thru weakness exploitation Blackbeard has no sword fighting feats iirc. People feared him mostly cuz of his legend and his "magic". He's the weak link here.
In terms of his sword fighting to me it seemed the same. He was never really effective running all over creation. I think it's close between the two but still favor Blackbeard due to him cheating.
Barbossa is a cheater as well. And i think peak Barbossa is above Blackbeard by a good margin. I also think he is above Jones in the skill department. But he would lose this fight since Jones is stronger and has more advantages than the other two.
Barbossa did much better against Sparrow than Jones imo. Also he was taking out multiple enemies in the final battle of 3 while marrying the couple and trying to steer the ship iirc. It's been a while since i've seen it tho. He did some 'between the legs' stab to a guy coming up behing him. Then it is strongly implied that had his entire crew attacked him in the cave he still would have won.
In terms of sword play Barbossa has feats out the ass. Jone was more of a walking juggernaut except for his duel with Sparrow iirc. And Blackbeard wasn't very impressive at all
I never said Blackbeard had a huge advantage but to me a pretty even fight with Barbossa being aware of his skills and cheating prior to leads me to give him the edge.
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