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Franklin Richards vs Tyrant, Thanos, and Odin...
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I did think about it. There's no reason why Franklin couldn't have used young Franklin's power to augment himself. He chose to use it to revive Galactus. Let's not get hung up on the semantics of the word "amp" though.

Except there is. Adult Franklin used all of young Franklin's energy(collected in that blue orb) to revive Galactus. Since he used all that juice to bring back the big G, there's no reason to think that he used any of it to augment his own personal power.

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You're the one who brought Hickman's Formspring comments into this. By Hickman's own Formspring words, the Celestials did not have to combine to defeat Galactus. There's two quotes from him, and they're only a few posts above.

Re-read the word "unwittingly" used in my previous posts. The way that battle with Galactus was portrayed on-panel, that indeed is the logical interpretation that follows. And yes, Hickman did say that, but then again Galactus was facing all 4 of the Celestials, while Franklin would have fallen against a lesser number of Celestials, without the necessary backup from Galactus. Ponder upon that.


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Where is Quan? He hasn't even voted in secrecy.


He's voted; I am looking at it now....he's just too cowardly to support his vote openly.


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^That's something I have noted in every Franklin Richards vs Thanos thread(and all the myriad variations of said thread). Quan has never backed down from defending Thanos against freaking Lucifer Morningstar himself, yet he seems to shy away from the Franklin threads. Strange...


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^That's something I have noted in every Franklin Richards vs Thanos thread(and all the myriad variations of said thread). Quan has never backed down from defending Thanos against freaking Lucifer Morningstar himself, yet he seems to shy away from the Franklin threads. Strange...


Quanchi knows Thanos is so far beneath Franklin that there is no argument (no matter how much he attempts to twist things in Thanos's favor) to be made on Thanos's behalf...

And Quanchi is too much of a fanboy to ever admit Thanos loses (except against Surtur!) so he wont respond to those type of threads at all...


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And you continue to try and bait him into replying to spite threads like these. When he inevitably does, the thread derails into a 30 page shitstorm before getting locked eventually. Life goes on as usual afterwards. More bait threads, more flamewars etc etc.


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And you continue to try and bait him into replying to spite threads like these. When he inevitably does, the thread derails into a 30 page shitstorm before getting locked eventually. Life goes on as usual afterwards. More bait threads, more flamewars etc etc.


Well no...its not bait as Thanos has enough help to avoid it being Spite; Thanos one on one vs Franklin is definitely Spite.

I dont think this qualifies...


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Well no...its not bait as Thanos has enough help to avoid it being Spite; Thanos one on one vs Franklin is definitely Spite.

I dont think this qualifies...

Tyrant is the only one here who is even a factor in the fight, and even then you haven't mentioned whether it is the DP version or the FP version.

So yeah, this pretty much is spite.


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Imho DP Tyrant is maybe slightly above Odin. So in essence, at best, 1 Elder God level, One Skyfather and one Trans against 1 Abstract.


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Imho DP Tyrant is maybe slightly above Odin. So in essence, at best, 1 Elder God level, One Skyfather and one Trans against 1 Abstract.

DP Tyrant is about Odin lvl (depending on what Odin is doing to amp [assuming no Asgard/Asgardian lifeforce draining amps] and taking into consideration the CW god origin retcon [assuming it was really a retcon and not a retelling]).

So you have 2 Skyfather level beings and one Trans Tier against one high cosmic. I still think Franklin wins but it's not a stomp in his favor at all.

Also, Franklin is NOT an abstract. Not even close. He couldn't beat 3 Rogue Celestials without 616 Franklin's power, Sol's Anvil, and Galactus' help.


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DP Tyrant is about Odin lvl (depending on what Odin is doing to amp [assuming no Asgard/Asgardian lifeforce draining amps] and taking into consideration the CW god origin retcon [assuming it was really a retcon and not a retelling]).

So you have 2 Skyfather level beings and one Trans Tier against one high cosmic. I still think Franklin wins but it's not a stomp in his favor at all.

Also, Franklin is NOT an abstract. Not even close. He couldn't beat 3 Rogue Celestials without 616 Franklin's power, Sol's Anvil, and Galactus' help.


I put him on G's level and G is an Abstrac, or how is he rated here on kmc?


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I put him on G's level and G is an Abstrac, or how is he rated here on kmc?

By definition though he cannot be an abstract. Abstracts are well.....abstract concepts.

Death, Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion, Anomaly, Order, Chaos, Love, Hate, The Living Tribunal, etc.. these are abstracts.

Galactus, the Watchers, the Celestials, etc... are not abstracts, they are very powerful cosmic beings.

And yes, I agree with you he's Galactus/Celestial level. Exactly like it's been stated on panel even before Hickman got his claws into him. Franklin's potential was said to rival a Celestial's.


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By definition though he cannot be an abstract. Abstracts are well.....abstract concepts.

Death, Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion, Anomaly, Order, Chaos, Love, Hate, The Living Tribunal, etc.. these are abstracts.

Galactus, the Watchers, the Celestials, etc... are not abstracts, they are very powerful cosmic beings.

And yes, I agree with you he's Galactus/Celestial level. Exactly like it's been stated on panel even before Hickman got his claws into him. Franklin's potential was said to rival a Celestial's.


So to be more precise, Abstract level, like Galactus^^.


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yes franklin is celestial lvl but odd though he had to b revived by ashema the listener when he perished

regards to hickman friends, all writers write as they please hope he doesn't f*** with lt when he returns in the new thanos sillyness prolly will tho the stupid bastard laughing out loud


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Big G is half abstract, being a merger of Galan and the previous universe's version of Eternity. He also somewhat represents an abstract concept. But yeah, generally he's considered a high-end cosmic


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yes he's quite powerful


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So to be more precise, Abstract level, like Galactus^^.

You missed the whole point.

Galactus is a high end cosmic, not an abstract, since he represents NO concept.


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You missed the whole point.

Galactus is a high end cosmic, not an abstract, since he represents NO concept.


Actually, you missed the point.

I know. Abstract level is like Herald level for me to judge ones powerlevel. Superman is no Herald of Galactus, yet he is considered Herald level. I use that concept to judge ones power. Galactus or Frankling are no abstracts per se, but heir power is on par with some of them.


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So you have 2 Skyfather level beings and one Trans Tier against one high cosmic. I still think Franklin wins but it's not a stomp in his favor at all.

Considering DP Tyrant's position on the Tiers thread, this team is technically 1 skyfather + 2 Trans level beings against Franklin.


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Considering DP Tyrant's position on the Tiers thread, this team is technically 1 skyfather + 2 Trans level beings against Franklin.

Tier threads are d|ck.

Team probably loses but they give Franklin hell.


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