Not sure about the first round but Thor definitely wins the second round.
Faora should be physically stronger than Thor and faster but Mjolnir would post a major problem. I don't think she's tanking too many hits from the hammer and lightning would screw her up. However if she starts laying the smackdown like she did against Supes immediately then I could see her winning.
I think Faora is somewhat stronger and vastly quicker.
I think she would get the majority of hits, Thor might get in a few though. Lightning attacks are too slow (since Thor must charge these).
After watching Thor fight Loki and Cap and Iron Man I get a sense he will be outmatched.
So, you're basing this on fights where Thor was holding back?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Faora is stronger and vastly faster... but Thor is more durable and has omnidirectional blasts. Like the one he used against Loki when Loki multiplied himself. Or he could just fly up and create a tornado to lift Faora like he did Destroyer, and from there bombard her with lightning or hammer strike her into oblivion. Of course, that's assuming he can catch her.
I do think this match is closer than most people realize. Thor has more raw power whereas Faora is faster. Strength is near equal, though slightly in Faora's favor whereas durability is near equal, slightly in Thor's favor.
Plus Thor was holding back against Loki, IM, and Hulk. If you really want to see Thor fighting properly, see how he dealt with the Frost giants and the destroyer.
__________________
Last edited by FrothByte on Jun 20th, 2013 at 04:18 AM
He was initially holding back on Loki. Once Loki stabbed him and Thor got pissed it was GG.
Iron Man? He was definitely holding back. We saw him crush the armor. He owned Tony with one mjolnir blow when he was sufficiently pissed right before he attempted to pulverize Cap.
I don't think Thor would think of such a strategy (lifting her with tornado and using lightning). Plus that's a very slow attack. Destroyer stood there like an idiot for a long time allowing Thor to do this. Also I'm uncertain that lightning can harm her. She can catch, parry, or block his hammer also.
Thor has multidirectional blasts, not omnidirectional. Which scene are you referring to about Thor using lightning against multiple Loki?
I don't think Thor is more durable. But if he is then it is close nevertheless.
The fact Thor used the tornado on Destroyer leads me to believe he might attempt it. Thing is Destroyer had no where near the mobility and speed of Faora.
The omnidirectional blast is when Thor and Loki are in the bifrost. Thor is on the floor facing up and Loki starts laughing at him with multiple illusions. Thor gets pissed and brings the hammer up, unleashing the blast that sent Loki flying and eventually lead to his defeat.
I don't see the omnidirectional blast doing much though. In fact it would probably just piss her off.
He was straining against Loki well before Loki stabbed him. Thor fell then got up and rushed Loki with a left punch. Loki caught his initial strike (proving to be in Thor's supposedly pissed strength range) but Thor countered with a right kick that made Loki fall to the ground. Thor then picked Loki up and slammed him. No signs of holding back strength there.
Against Iron Man he didn't hit him with any hammer swings until Cap intervened. He tried and failed though.
He threw the hammer at Iron Man (cheapshot), used lightning (didn't do much to Iron Man but charge him mostly), punched him and wrestled with him. No signs of holding back there.
One more thing. Thor had a serious knack for dropping his hammer after a vicious strike. This is another disadvantage for him.
The lightning was destroying the armor. To me seeing Thor crushing the armor like it was a cardboard box is reason and proof enough that he was in fact holding back on Iron Man.
Yes Thor did have a habit of losing the hammer every chance he got. It is problematic and could cost him the fight.
As for Loki...I'll give you that. Fight ended quite fast after he was pissed though.
__________________
Many thanks to Rao Kal-EL Da Man
Last edited by Zack Fair on Jun 20th, 2013 at 05:27 AM
Thor was holding back against IM because as he said, he had no quarrel with the mortal. IM was also charged to 400%. Thor was holding back against Loki because he was trying to reason with him. Thor was pissed when he went after Cap, but Cap has a vibranium shield which Faora doesn't.
I agree that Thor will have a hard time catching up to Faora, but all Thor needs to do is damage Faora's helmet and she's going to be in trouble. Whereas Thor can tank everything Faora did in the movie. Faora didn't show any feats strong enough to KO Thor. In fact, I don't recall Thor ever getting KO'd. A missile knocked out Faora though. Bifrost explosion didn't KO Thor.
As for omnidirectional attacks, there's also the Jotunheim blast he used. Plus Thor can fly. Huge advantage in him flying. His flight speed is faster than Faora's jump speed.
Faora can win the fight, as long as she makes sure she doesn't make mistakes. Thor can win the fight, as long as he plays smart and uses his powers wisely.
Try watching the movies and compare his fights against the Frost Giants, monster and the Destroyer to the ones you mentioned....if you can't see a massive difference then you're even more biased than quan.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
He had no quarrel before Iron Man wasn't complying. And certainly he had quarrel after Iron Man engaged him.
Faora doesn't need a shield. She can block, catch, parry, or dodge the hammer swing. It's highly possible that the sensory overload (which showed pain in her head) was also the helping cause of her being koed by the missile.
I'm not sure if Bifrost explosion is all that. I have to see it again. Also Thor from avengers is clearly weaker than Thor the movie.
Thor's flight speed is almost irrelevant since he needs time to accelerate to those speeds. They are not instant. Looking at the Iron Man fight he always started slow but sped up. But you are correct here. She can't fly and would be a disadvantage in the beginning (assuming she will eventually learn like Zod and Clark did).
TBH, all of your arguments make sense (I have no problem agreeing with) EXCEPT Thor was holding back on Iron Man. There is no solid proof of that IMO.
Thor was more powerful in that movie than the Avengers movie. Also Thor didn't have the same character as he did in the Avengers. He was evil remember? Thor didn't do that shit he did to those Leviathans what he did to that Giant beast..
KMC Community Forums
Jun 19th, 2013 11:11 PM
